No. In saying 99% of the people in any sangha who receive pointing out instructions dont get confindence in the view soy they have to apply methods to re introduce themselves again and again until they gain certainty (which is the first point).Jules 09 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:54 pmSo, you appear to be saying that 99% of people that receive DI (Dzogchen Community terminology), are not able to actually practice Dzogchen, as per the Three Statements of Garab Dorje, until some time later when they "eventually" recognize what it was that the guru was actually pointing at. ?99% of people dont get it during DI, but applying the methods eventually they do
I can somewhat agree with that.
However, most practitioners that I've known, have continued to receive teachings and pointing out instructions many times over a period of several, if not many, years. That has also been my own experience.
Pretty basic standard dzogchen practice procedure