how many years does it take you to understand the practice?

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Re: how many years does it take you to understand the practice?

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Soma999 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:08 pm If you do what is good and follow good guidance, everything will make sense.
and doesn't matter if not.

I can hear you saying:
"always some"
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master of puppets wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:02 pm
Soma999 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:08 pm If you do what is good and follow good guidance, everything will make sense.
and doesn't matter if not.
Sounds like a personal justification, like: the doing and following never happened for you? Or making sense, i.e, enlightemment, is unrealizable, which doesn't matter?
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reiun wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:23 pm
master of puppets wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:02 pm
Soma999 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:08 pm If you do what is good and follow good guidance, everything will make sense.
and doesn't matter if not.
Sounds like a personal justification, like: the doing and following never happened for you? Or making sense, i.e, enlightemment, is unrealizable, which doesn't matter?
I think it means that things don’t have to make sense.
EMPTIFUL.
An inward outlook produces outward insight.
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PadmaVonSamba wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:36 pm
reiun wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:23 pm
master of puppets wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:02 pm

and doesn't matter if not.
Sounds like a personal justification, like: the doing and following never happened for you? Or making sense, i.e, enlightemment, is unrealizable, which doesn't matter?
I think it means that things don’t have to make sense.
And that would be based on both a lack of understanding of relative existence and ultimate existence.
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reiun wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:15 am
PadmaVonSamba wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:36 pm I think it means that things don’t have to make sense.
And that would be based on both a lack of understanding of relative existence and ultimate existence.
Or, based on not being attached to the security of things having to make sense, which after all, is rooted in self-grasping.
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I think in practicing mind things don't have to make a sense.
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PadmaVonSamba wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:13 am
reiun wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:15 am
PadmaVonSamba wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:36 pm I think it means that things don’t have to make sense.
And that would be based on both a lack of understanding of relative existence and ultimate existence.
Or, based on not being attached to the security of things having to make sense, which after all, is rooted in self-grasping.
My definition of the phrase didn't get through. But regarding that last sentence: yup, that's right, lotta self-graspers out there.
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reiun wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:23 pm
master of puppets wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:02 pm
Soma999 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:08 pm If you do what is good and follow good guidance, everything will make sense.
and doesn't matter if not.
Sounds like a personal justification, like: the doing and following never happened for you? Or making sense, i.e, enlightemment, is unrealizable, which doesn't matter?
first begin with none-nothing = which is non grasping
then enter samadhi with none-nothing
finally enlightenment comes with none-nothing

no mind was require none-nothing
non self was none-nothing
life after dead was so
nirvana as well

this none-nothing is the practice
don't know mind

just my imagination ofcourse

Success only possible with %100 Mu in both cases

my point ı stand

so doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense,,,

and while Buddha is the middle way
attain buddhahood with none-nothing;

bow
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master of puppets wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:33 am
just my imagination ofcourse

The truth.
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