>still too much words. just tell me one word. and ı know what ı am chasing.
Shobogenzo are thounsand pages, maybe you need more words than you think
Is Zen simply "sitting"/Zazen?
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Re: Is Zen simply "sitting"/Zazen?
There is no direct knowledge of the mind without knowledge of its movement and continual manifestation.master of puppets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:40 amstill too much words. just tell me one word. and ı know what ı am chasing.Tao wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:04 am Mental stillness is needed to see.
But it's not the goal.
Not even to see is the goal.
There must be some "return" to a not-always-still mind who is aware of what you saw in stillness.
So we have some possibilities:
Non-stillnes and non-essence (nature of mind) -> Beginning
Stillness in ignorance -> focusing/absortion
Stillnes while seeing the essence -> kensho/understanding
Non-stillness while seeing the essence -> samadhi/shikantaza
and then bear in mind how pervasive is each state, when the last state is 24x7 pervasive you are very close...
Some Zen propose some variations like:
Non-stillnes and non-essence (nature of mind) -> Beginning
Stillnes and Non-stillness in ignorance
Stillness and Non-stillness while seeing the essence
PS: Of course terminology is very rough, sorry, hope you are tolerant
One word answers are just sophistry most of the time.
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Re: Is Zen simply "sitting"/Zazen?
If you can go many with the one word it is still an experience.Johnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:50 pmThere is no direct knowledge of the mind without knowledge of its movement and continual manifestation.master of puppets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:40 amstill too much words. just tell me one word. and ı know what ı am chasing.Tao wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:04 am Mental stillness is needed to see.
But it's not the goal.
Not even to see is the goal.
There must be some "return" to a not-always-still mind who is aware of what you saw in stillness.
So we have some possibilities:
Non-stillnes and non-essence (nature of mind) -> Beginning
Stillness in ignorance -> focusing/absortion
Stillnes while seeing the essence -> kensho/understanding
Non-stillness while seeing the essence -> samadhi/shikantaza
and then bear in mind how pervasive is each state, when the last state is 24x7 pervasive you are very close...
Some Zen propose some variations like:
Non-stillnes and non-essence (nature of mind) -> Beginning
Stillnes and Non-stillness in ignorance
Stillness and Non-stillness while seeing the essence
PS: Of course terminology is very rough, sorry, hope you are tolerant
One word answers are just sophistry most of the time.