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https://www.dalailama.com/live

Scroll down to the bottom and see the provided links for both Six Session Guru Yoga and The Yoga of the Three Purifications.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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wiseowl wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:20 pmThanks!
You're welcome! 🙂🙏
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I think Phabongka is in this lineage, right?
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lelopa wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:16 am I think Phabongka is in this lineage, right?
I assume so and either or both Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche.
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"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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Konchog1 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:44 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:16 am I think Phabongka is in this lineage, right?
I assume so and either or both Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche.
It is likely so. However, the lineage prayer in Berzin's Long Sadhana has the last two curiously as the 6th Panchen Lama and then the 13th Dalai Lama? Which doesn't really work out quite right. :shrug:

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The short and long sadhanas are on Chakrasamvara.com
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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zerwe wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:17 am It is likely so. However, the lineage prayer in Berzin's Long Sadhana has the last two curiously as the 6th Panchen Lama and then the 13th Dalai Lama? Which doesn't really work out quite right. :shrug:

Shaun :namaste:
Do you have the name of that Panchen Lama? Because of the two different numbering systems, the 6th Panchen could mean the 9th who was a contemporary of the 13th Dalai Lama, although the 9th was a student rather than a teacher of the 13th Dalai Lama, as opposed to the 8th Panchen Lama though I don't think he lived long enough to confer many transmissions.
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zerwe wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:17 am It is likely so. However, the lineage prayer in Berzin's Long Sadhana has the last two curiously as the 6th Panchen Lama and then the 13th Dalai Lama? Which doesn't really work out quite right. :shrug:

Shaun :namaste:
In the copy I have the last two names are Losang Palden Yeshe (6th Panchen Lama) and Losang Jampel Gyatso (8th Dalai Lama). Is this the same as yours or are there a few versions available?
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jmlee369 wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:43 am
zerwe wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:17 am It is likely so. However, the lineage prayer in Berzin's Long Sadhana has the last two curiously as the 6th Panchen Lama and then the 13th Dalai Lama? Which doesn't really work out quite right. :shrug:

Shaun :namaste:
Do you have the name of that Panchen Lama? Because of the two different numbering systems, the 6th Panchen could mean the 9th who was a contemporary of the 13th Dalai Lama, although the 9th was a student rather than a teacher of the 13th Dalai Lama, as opposed to the 8th Panchen Lama though I don't think he lived long enough to confer many transmissions.
Losang Palden Yeshe and Jampel Gyatso

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Lobsang Chojor wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:19 pm
zerwe wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:17 am It is likely so. However, the lineage prayer in Berzin's Long Sadhana has the last two curiously as the 6th Panchen Lama and then the 13th Dalai Lama? Which doesn't really work out quite right. :shrug:

Shaun :namaste:
In the copy I have the last two names are Losang Palden Yeshe (6th Panchen Lama) and Losang Jampel Gyatso (8th Dalai Lama). Is this the same as yours or are there a few versions available?
Ok, yes this is the same . I didn't make the connection that this was the 8th Dalai Lama.

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HH DL didn't give any commitments with Luipa Cakrasamvara empowerment? is that right?
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yagmort wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:40 am HH DL didn't give any commitments with Luipa Cakrasamvara empowerment? is that right?
Six Session Guru Yoga and Three Purification at least, best is the sadhana.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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ok, i got conflicting info from the person who was actually present there then.
could it be no commitments for the laymen sangha?
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yagmort wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:52 am ok, i got conflicting info from the person who was actually present there then.
could it be no commitments for the laymen sangha?
Please note that people attending the initiation are required to do the daily practice of the Six-Session Guru Yoga which is compulsory for Highest Yoga Tantra empowerments. They also need to do the daily practice of the Luipa Chakrasamvara Sadhana or at least the Triple Purification Practice of Chakrasamvara.
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-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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yagmort wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:52 am ok, i got conflicting info from the person who was actually present there then.
could it be no commitments for the laymen sangha?
At the end of the initiation everything was very quickly done and His Holiness didn't detail the commitments. But prior to the initiation the OHHDL said the commitment would be six session guru yoga and Triple Purification of Chakrasamvara, and at the start you promised to keep them all.

During the initiation though His Holiness said that you should also practice the all encompassing yoga daily. FPMT have a transcript of this practice but it is just like in the initiation and other teachings His Holiness has led.
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Lobsang Chojor, thank you for the clarification!
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Lobsang Chojor wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:47 am During the initiation though His Holiness said that you should also practice the all encompassing yoga daily. FPMT have a transcript of this practice but it is just like in the initiation and other teachings His Holiness has led.
What is this practice? I only heard HHDL say to practice bodhichitta daily on the first day and bodhichitta and emptiness every day on the second day.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
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Oh, it's the same thing! Thank you!
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
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