Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
Mingyur Rinpoche incorporated White Tara into his preliminary program before someone can ask for higher yanas teachings from him. I'm interested in receiving his teachings. Does anyone know if the White Tara he asks his students to complete is a highest yoga tantra form of White Tara? Is it Terma or Kama? Please direct message me if you are his student or know which White Tara his students do. Thank you.
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
I believe Mingyur Rinpoche wrote a fairly short sadhana, but I imagine the lineage of empowerment and explanation comes down via Atisha, and I think Serlingpa, down through Karma Chagme, various Karmapas and heart sons of the Karma KAgyu lineage. This is the most common lineage found amongst Kaygu lamas.
I am not sure if it is considered Kriya, etc., but Kagyupas practice it more in keeping with HYT view. It's an important practice, and one many Lamas do every morning. In the Karma KAgyu, there are two sadhanas that are popular, a longer one by one of the Situpas, and a daily practice "Gyun Khyer" written by Kongtrul. I am quite fond of the latter, myself.
I am not sure if it is considered Kriya, etc., but Kagyupas practice it more in keeping with HYT view. It's an important practice, and one many Lamas do every morning. In the Karma KAgyu, there are two sadhanas that are popular, a longer one by one of the Situpas, and a daily practice "Gyun Khyer" written by Kongtrul. I am quite fond of the latter, myself.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
He also teaches mahamudra and dzogchen almost from the get go.rupam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:54 am Mingyur Rinpoche incorporated White Tara into his preliminary program before someone can ask for higher yanas teachings from him. I'm interested in receiving his teachings. Does anyone know if the White Tara he asks his students to complete is a highest yoga tantra form of White Tara? Is it Terma or Kama? Please direct message me if you are his student or know which White Tara his students do. Thank you.
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
My experience of the times I've seen him in person is that he's constantly pointing out the nature of mind to everyone.Tata1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:01 pmHe also teaches mahamudra and dzogchen almost from the get go.rupam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:54 am Mingyur Rinpoche incorporated White Tara into his preliminary program before someone can ask for higher yanas teachings from him. I'm interested in receiving his teachings. Does anyone know if the White Tara he asks his students to complete is a highest yoga tantra form of White Tara? Is it Terma or Kama? Please direct message me if you are his student or know which White Tara his students do. Thank you.
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
I agree.Jangchup Donden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:25 pmMy experience of the times I've seen him in person is that he's constantly pointing out the nature of mind to everyone.Tata1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:01 pmHe also teaches mahamudra and dzogchen almost from the get go.rupam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:54 am Mingyur Rinpoche incorporated White Tara into his preliminary program before someone can ask for higher yanas teachings from him. I'm interested in receiving his teachings. Does anyone know if the White Tara he asks his students to complete is a highest yoga tantra form of White Tara? Is it Terma or Kama? Please direct message me if you are his student or know which White Tara his students do. Thank you.
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~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
I'm a student of Mingyur Rinpoche's and have received his White Tara empowerment, which is nearly identical to the WT of Situ Tenpe Nyinche's that has been my daily practice for two decades. They are both annutara practices from the Atisha tradition, Mingyur R's sadhana being somewhat more concise. MR's senior monk, Lama Kunga, took some time to explain that it was not a kriya practice.
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--Dudjom Rinpoche, "Nectar for the Hearts of Fortunate Disciples. Song No. 8"
--Dudjom Rinpoche, "Nectar for the Hearts of Fortunate Disciples. Song No. 8"
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
As someone who will be attending a White Tara empowerment with Rinpoche soon, is this something I should try to be aware of?Jangchup Donden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:25 pm My experience of the times I've seen him in person is that he's constantly pointing out the nature of mind to everyone.
"Don't mind me, just trying to find the nearest exit"
- someone stuck in Samsara... or maybe lost in Walmart
- someone stuck in Samsara... or maybe lost in Walmart
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/the-power-o ... p5m8b_iuJE
That's the one upcoming in Vancouver for this in the area.
That's the one upcoming in Vancouver for this in the area.
IF YOU PRACTICE WITH A STRONG BELIEF IN WHAT
YOU ARE DOING, THEN THERE IS NO LIMIT TO WHAT
YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH YOUR PRACTICE.
CHAKUNG JIGME WANGDRAK RINPOCHE
YOU ARE DOING, THEN THERE IS NO LIMIT TO WHAT
YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH YOUR PRACTICE.
CHAKUNG JIGME WANGDRAK RINPOCHE
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
When Mingyur Rinpoche is talking about the mind you should be aware of your own mind.ManiThePainter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:12 amAs someone who will be attending a White Tara empowerment with Rinpoche soon, is this something I should try to be aware of?Jangchup Donden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:25 pm My experience of the times I've seen him in person is that he's constantly pointing out the nature of mind to everyone.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
Thanks everyone for the helpful and informative replies.
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
Yes.Nalanda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:17 am https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/the-power-o ... p5m8b_iuJE
That's the one upcoming in Vancouver for this in the area.
"Don't mind me, just trying to find the nearest exit"
- someone stuck in Samsara... or maybe lost in Walmart
- someone stuck in Samsara... or maybe lost in Walmart
Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
You seem to be the most well-versed person in Kagyu practices. I have a question.conebeckham wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:32 am I believe Mingyur Rinpoche wrote a fairly short sadhana, but I imagine the lineage of empowerment and explanation comes down via Atisha, and I think Serlingpa, down through Karma Chagme, various Karmapas and heart sons of the Karma KAgyu lineage. This is the most common lineage found amongst Kaygu lamas.
I am not sure if it is considered Kriya, etc., but Kagyupas practice it more in keeping with HYT view. It's an important practice, and one many Lamas do every morning. In the Karma KAgyu, there are two sadhanas that are popular, a longer one by one of the Situpas, and a daily practice "Gyun Khyer" written by Kongtrul. I am quite fond of the latter, myself.
Do I need a 2-day Wangkur from a Kagyu teacher to receive and practice Atisha's White Tara? I have empowerment that are not HYT from Sakya and received oral Dzogchen teachings from Nyingma lamas but never received anything from Kagyu. Thank you!
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Re: Mingyur Rinpoche's White Tara
rupam wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:57 amYou seem to be the most well-versed person in Kagyu practices. I have a question.conebeckham wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:32 am I believe Mingyur Rinpoche wrote a fairly short sadhana, but I imagine the lineage of empowerment and explanation comes down via Atisha, and I think Serlingpa, down through Karma Chagme, various Karmapas and heart sons of the Karma KAgyu lineage. This is the most common lineage found amongst Kaygu lamas.
I am not sure if it is considered Kriya, etc., but Kagyupas practice it more in keeping with HYT view. It's an important practice, and one many Lamas do every morning. In the Karma KAgyu, there are two sadhanas that are popular, a longer one by one of the Situpas, and a daily practice "Gyun Khyer" written by Kongtrul. I am quite fond of the latter, myself.
Do I need a 2-day Wangkur from a Kagyu teacher to receive and practice Atisha's White Tara? I have empowerment that are not HYT from Sakya and received oral Dzogchen teachings from Nyingma lamas but never received anything from Kagyu. Thank you!
You need the empowerment which is not a “major”wang, that’s all.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")