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When don't know, it is good.
(my words)
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"First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you" - F. Scott Fitzgerald
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:good: All of the above quotations!
Ludwig Wittgenstein wrote:Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent.
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Just wanted to share two thoughts:
1. Meditation concentrated on breathing is making one, to simply put it, smarter. :)
2. No stimulus (to some degree) is important, its part of meditation, makes one more aware, alert, calm.

Ty.
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Our identity is a story, arising from that in which there is nothing to label.

(based on Guru Rinpoche teaching)
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Everything is a dream, so everything is possible. (quote by lama ole nydahl)

How come, what does it mean? Can 2+2 ever be anything else than 4?
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master of puppets wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am All is fake (unreal). Zen master is there to make it real!
(my words)
This is completely wrong. Ultimate reality (all) is not "fake", except in your own mistaken perception or theory. It is up to the student to experience, and no one elae can 'make it real".

This kind of ignorance and misinformation is potentially harmful to aspiring zen students who may read and believe it. Since zen masters are available online for dokusan, if your language skill is good enough, you can find out yourself how they can be helpful.
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master of puppets wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am All is fake (unreal). Zen master is there to make it real!
(my words)
What makes something real or unreal?
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when afflicted by disease

Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad

Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs

Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared

-Khunu Lama
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master of puppets wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am All is fake (unreal). Zen master is there to make it real!
(my words)
Fake roses are real.
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he he yes
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Can one not fear fear itself?
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Of course one can.
One can fear butterflies, rainbows and rose petals, too, but does that make good use of one's time?
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In the cold air the dampness of my breath is freed.

Zen friend: "Perfect union".
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master of puppets wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:25 pm
master of puppets wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am All is fake (unreal). Zen master is there to make it real!
(my words)
So, let's do everything real!
I can hear my teacher now: "Don't make real, don't make fake" :D
When walking, standing, sitting, lying down, speaking,
being silent, moving, being still.
At all times, in all places, without interruption - what is this?
One mind is infinite kalpas.

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Which isn't real; don't have a validity.
(my words)
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All know the way; few actually walk it.
Bodhidharma

What does it mean? I certainly didn't know about how meditation is useful when being a kid. If one knew, one would do what one knew (?)...

:alien: mysterious...
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Jokingfish wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:35 pm All know the way; few actually walk it.
Bodhidharma

What does it mean? I certainly didn't know about how meditation is useful when being a kid. If one knew, one would do what one knew (?)...

:alien: mysterious...
I think you don't have to look from bodhidharma's perspective. if you have one, you will certainly understand it.
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master of puppets wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:25 pm
master of puppets wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am All is fake (unreal). Zen master is there to make it real!
(my words)
So, let's do everything real!
In real, there is no lie.

interesting is to give 2/3 of your life to be understand one word (no lie) of the buddha.

:shrug:

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net bir şekilde anlaşılabilmeniz için bir çevirmen uygulaması kullanmayı hiç düşündünüz mü?

A translator app might help you be understood and get more responses.
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Yes, it would be wonderful to hear “master of puppets” speaking clearly and fluently, without language barrier.
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