Chöd Yidams
Chöd Yidams
Hello,
No misogynistic intent here at all, but I really would like to know why the chöd traditions working with female yidams.
Thanks,
AB
No misogynistic intent here at all, but I really would like to know why the chöd traditions working with female yidams.
Thanks,
AB
Re: Chöd Yidams
Because the feminine aspect is the manifestation of wisdom.
Chod is basically Prajnaparamita practice.
In Machik's chod lineage it is also because the yidam is Machik Labdron, who happens to be a woman.
Chod is basically Prajnaparamita practice.
In Machik's chod lineage it is also because the yidam is Machik Labdron, who happens to be a woman.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Chöd Yidams
Thanks.
Prajnaparamita is beautiful in her personalized form.
Is this means that the chöd practice is more suitable for female practicioners?
Or for male practicioners? Because working with a female yidam is an easier approach to cutting of clinging to the male habituated body-mind?
Prajnaparamita is beautiful in her personalized form.
Is this means that the chöd practice is more suitable for female practicioners?
Or for male practicioners? Because working with a female yidam is an easier approach to cutting of clinging to the male habituated body-mind?
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Re: Chöd Yidams
Not at all. It is suitable for anyone who needs to cut through ego and clinging.AmidaB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:25 am Thanks.
Prajnaparamita is beautiful in her personalized form.
Is this means that the chöd practice is more suitable for female practicioners?
Or for male practicioners? Because working with a female yidam is an easier approach to cutting of clinging to the male habituated body-mind?
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Chöd Yidams
ie EVERYONE!Miroku wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:59 amNot at all. It is suitable for anyone who needs to cut through ego and clinging.AmidaB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:25 am Thanks.
Prajnaparamita is beautiful in her personalized form.
Is this means that the chöd practice is more suitable for female practicioners?
Or for male practicioners? Because working with a female yidam is an easier approach to cutting of clinging to the male habituated body-mind?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Re: Chöd Yidams
I am pretty sure I don't need it.Grigoris wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:23 pmie EVERYONE!Miroku wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:59 amNot at all. It is suitable for anyone who needs to cut through ego and clinging.AmidaB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:25 am Thanks.
Prajnaparamita is beautiful in her personalized form.
Is this means that the chöd practice is more suitable for female practicioners?
Or for male practicioners? Because working with a female yidam is an easier approach to cutting of clinging to the male habituated body-mind?
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Chöd Yidams
Tashi delek,
I don't want to tread secret area but am really curious about who is the khatvanga?
Thanks
I don't want to tread secret area but am really curious about who is the khatvanga?
Thanks
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Re: Chöd Yidams
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Chöd Yidams
Also symbolises the consort.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Chöd Yidams
Fascinating. So, then who is the consort of Troma Nagmo, Simhamukha, Vajrayogini respectively? Is this means that some chöd rituals contains consort practice?
Re: Chöd Yidams
AFAIK the majority of the yidam practices transmitted by Machig and Padampa were wrathful female deities. This should be no surprise as deities like VY were the main charnel ground practices prior to the existence of Chod.
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Re: Chöd Yidams
So in Chöd, Yidam is Machig Labdron, Dakini is Vajrayogini and Guru is Prajnaparamita?
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Re: Chöd Yidams
Sorry, IDK. Sounds good.
Please start a new topic, because this one is older than one year. We had confusions in the past when someone used to necro discussion topics and people started to discuss with inactive members.
BTW, usually soon nobody sees your initial necroing question anymore after some following posts.