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I'm not sure there's such a thing as a ritual for supporting ritual?
When writing a ritual, I mean a regularly repeated practice, e.g. meditation
but if they are, if you know and practice
I wanted to ask for support for my practice
i.e. I try to be present 24/7 to have lucid dreams and clear light

I'm trying to meditate,without an object or concentration on it, just relaxation and observation(thoughts)
unfortunately there are no results, which means there are some obstacles
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???? wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:12 pm I'm not sure there's such a thing as a ritual for supporting ritual?
When writing a ritual, I mean a regularly repeated practice, e.g. meditation
but if they are, if you know and practice
I wanted to ask for support for my practice
i.e. I try to be present 24/7 to have lucid dreams and clear light

I'm trying to meditate,without an object or concentration on it, just relaxation and observation(thoughts)
unfortunately there are no results, which means there are some obstacles
No need to “try”.
Just stop doing all that and watch the breath.
How long do you spend meditating each day?
If thoughts keep arising, that’s a result.
If you get utterly bored, that’s an even better result.
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All day,because I don't separate time for meditation from time for mundane everyday matters
I don't run away into the forest where I sit in the lotus position :) an hour or five,
and then I come back to life and no longer meditate
I just try to be present all the time
when I'm walking down the street, at work, talking to people
(this is the most difficult, i.e. maintaining the presence of an observer, not talking :rolling: )

Of course, sometimes a thought takes me away
but I quickly catch this moment and return to observation but...
I'm afraid I'm doing something wrong because when I fall asleep, I lose awareness

Even when I fly, it is something natural for me
and it doesn't make me feel that it must be a dream
I just fly and people around me are not surprised at all,me too
It's a normal thing, what's strange about it?

People walk, I levitate or fly
or I'm even Garfield (I wonder what karmic trace this is?) gliding through the city streets
on a large silver ladle powered by power of volition...
Noooo prooooblem,day like everyday

I used to regain awareness when I had nightmares, because fear made me want to run away,
disbelief, wishful thinking like "it can't be true, it must be a dream, I want to wake up" etc.
and then I regained awareness and with it I quickly woke up
I could never stay in a lucid dream for long
not to mention awarenes in the time before dreaming occurred.

To avoid being misunderstood
it's not like I'm reaching the state of Guru Yoga and I stay in it all day until I fall asleep

I try to get into this state by observing thoughts
and remaining present in the observing process.

...or maybe I just have terribly dirty karma and should I start by cleaning it?
but I have already participated in a karma cleansing ritual by a Bon practitioner
and I didn't feel it in any clear way
...what's more, I learned that the more we clean karma
the more dramatic changes may occur,and therefore cleaning was gentle
but that's a topic for another topic.

I even (accidentally) found this site
https://monlam.org/prayers/
where you can order many specific rituals
I'm considering two



Recitation and Prayers for Overcoming Obstacles (Dug Sher Seng Sum) º
· Heart Sūtra Recitation (Sherab Nyingpo)
· Prayers to White Umbrella Goddess/Sitātapatrā (Dugkar)
· Prayers to Lion-Faced Dakini/Siṃhamukhā (Senge Dongma)

or

Three Prayers to Remove Obstacles & Gather Positive Conditions (Bar Sam Drol Sum) º
· Prayer to Padmasaṃbhava: Clearing the Obstacles of the Path (Barchey Lamsel)
· Prayer to Padmasaṃbhava: Spontaneous Accomplishment of All Wishes (Sampa Lhündrub)
· Praises to 21 Tārās
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???? wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:12 pm I'm not sure there's such a thing as a ritual for supporting ritual?
When writing a ritual, I mean a regularly repeated practice, e.g. meditation
but if they are, if you know and practice
I wanted to ask for support for my practice
i.e. I try to be present 24/7 to have lucid dreams and clear light

I'm trying to meditate,without an object or concentration on it, just relaxation and observation(thoughts)
unfortunately there are no results, which means there are some obstacles
Dude, it is quite simple: Find a teacher and stop posting all these ridiculous questions.

PS Did you just say that you fly? In your dreams, right?
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If you have a teacher they’d probably say you need to spend time on preliminaries.

Generally when meditation does not work for beginners, ime the recommendation is to return to preliminaries. Sometimes even for non-beginners.

If you have no teacher or guidance in the first place, there’s your problem.

There is also a general sequence or process to learning shamatha without an object, there’s training involved, not just something you sit down and are able to do usually.

It is actually quite normal for people to be almost immediately distracted by thoughts when attempting this kind of meditation, which is again why you follow a teacher and method.
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I was trying to establish a meditation routine all my life, since I was 20 years old. I more ore less failed all the decades. Seemed to me, I had an insurmountable obstacle in my inner laziness.

Then, late at the age of 46, I met Buddhism and wanted to take a certain empowerment. I had to take refuge officially for this task and because there was nobody else at that very period of time who had the wish to take refuge, I found myself alone with my guru and the translator taking refuge. It happened in his small room and was a somehow lasting experience.
It seemed to be strange, but from that day on I never missed a practice session within my routine. As if the blessing opened a door and I could leave that obstacle of lazy lack of perspective behind.

Just saying, in order to clearify that the advice "Find a teacher" is not an empty arrogant phrase. It's just the essence of inspiration and therefore it's being repeated that often.
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Quite simply: There is no Vajrayana without a teacher.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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That's not a Vajrayana sub-forum... so...

If you are interested in lucid dreaming, I suggest you to train with dream related practices, not plain mindfulness as you do.

There're many techniques that can help you in that, they're quite useful, be them buddhist or not. In fact, for lucid dreaming the non-buddhist techniques probably are better (MILD, WILD, WBTB, etc...)

If the interest is in the clear light of sleep, then use the buddhist techniques on the subject.

But plain mindfulness is too coarse to work in my experience. You will get before to clear light than have a lucid dream using mindfulness alone. But that will take a lot. A lot. It comes after realizing the nature of mind, i dont think that you can get there before that.

>or maybe I just have terribly dirty karma and should I start by cleaning it?

I dont think so. It never happens that way...
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Maybe after the course something will change
https://ligmincha.pl/event/joga-snienia ... 2024-02-24

I don't remember the last time I flew in my dream
but today I had a dream from which I remember only one word - phurba
find or become a phurba,I have no idea,just "phurba phurba phurba" like mantra...
maybe because of some gemstones I got recently
according to description of their eoteric properties, each is supposed to have a similar effect(deepening meditative states, etc)
I don't know how much truth there is in it but who knows
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I've got a phurba in case you're interested :D

Bought them in Mustang last summer.
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???? wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:19 pm Maybe after the course something will change
https://ligmincha.pl/event/joga-snienia ... 2024-02-24

I don't remember the last time I flew in my dream
but today I had a dream from which I remember only one word - phurba
find or become a phurba,I have no idea,just "phurba phurba phurba" like mantra...
maybe because of some gemstones I got recently
according to description of their eoteric properties, each is supposed to have a similar effect(deepening meditative states, etc)
I don't know how much truth there is in it but who knows
You are in Poland?

There are plenty of good teachers in Poland. Why are you wasting your time here looking for advice?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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