Awareness

[master of puppets]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget which doesn't exist?"

[PadmaVonSamba]

It’s right for you, if it works for you,
the way that you figure it.

[master of puppets]

[master of puppets]

It’s right for you, if it works for you,
the way that you figure it.

Some will not believe in you. but this was what we were talking about from the beginning
ı guess.

[kirtu]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget which doesn't exist?"

You could basically say this for the Sravaka view (the Arhat Assaji to Upatissa [who became Sariputra]: "Of all those things that from a cause arise, Tathagata the cause thereof has told; And how they cease to be, that too he tells, This is the doctrine of the Great Recluse.").

For the sutra Mahayana view, even though it is also renunciation, you have to expand it and include Bodhisattva motivation. But then this naturally leads to Buddha Nature. Also in order to progress through the stages over three incalculable eons one has to invoke karma explicitly (which could be problematic since karma doesn't really exist, but it doesn't not exist either).

Zen actually starts with Buddha Nature + Bodhisattva motivation.

For Vajrayana and Dzogchen you also have to start with Buddha Nature + Bodhisattva motivation.

Your aphorism could be used for mind training though.

[master of puppets]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget which doesn't exist?"

You could basically say this for the Sravaka view (the Arhat Assaji to Upatissa [who became Sariputra]: "Of all those things that from a cause arise, Tathagata the cause thereof has told; And how they cease to be, that too he tells, This is the doctrine of the Great Recluse.").

For the sutra Mahayana view, even though it is also renunciation, you have to expand it and include Bodhisattva motivation. But then this naturally leads to Buddha Nature. Also in order to progress through the stages over three incalculable eons one has to invoke karma explicitly (which could be problematic since karma doesn't really exist, but it doesn't not exist either).

Zen actually starts with Buddha Nature + Bodhisattva motivation.

For Vajrayana and Dzogchen you also have to start with Buddha Nature + Bodhisattva motivation.

Your aphorism could be used for mind training though.

Thank you. ı see.

This one question helps me to correct my practice.

That ı see every question or note is just narrow our mind or practice. yet what we want is full liberation. under this circumstances the way is one.

not sound related with the topic; but it was useful for me.

help me to correct my position. now ı feel more liberated both in life and practice.

ı think which requires more "don't know".

That "don't know" , which doesn't fall under any concept.

better to be free (of any kind of notes, questions or answers)

a step forward for me,

[master of puppets]

We don't know what is the practice like; like what are we practicing. we know it is don't know. yet we don't know it.
so it is said just keep that mind and feel the joy within.
which come in means that your time has come.

agree??

[amanitamusc]

We don't know what is the practice like; like what are we practicing. we know it is don't know. yet we don't know it.
so it is said just keep that mind and feel the joy within.
which come in means that your time has come.

agree??

We don't know that we know we don't know? Sorry,I know,I know,I know,but...

[master of puppets]

we all know that,

Looking outside for joy is ignorance (or failure),
Looking inside (or in the spiritual way) is the wise way.




strength,

[kirtu]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget which doesn't exist?"

Interestingly I came across this in "The Buddha's Single Intention", Jan-Ulrich Sorbisch

The Samadhiraja Sutra ... goes further by stating that all teachings have "different wordings but the same meaning." Moreover the same sutra states: "I have taught all Dharmas as a single meaning." Similarly, Atisa is quoted, pointing out what that essential meaning is by stating that all Dharmas "boil down to true reality (dharmata)."

[master of puppets]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget which doesn't exist?"

Interestingly I came across this in "The Buddha's Single Intention", Jan-Ulrich Sorbisch

The Samadhiraja Sutra ... goes further by stating that all teachings have "different wordings but the same meaning." Moreover the same sutra states: "I have taught all Dharmas as a single meaning." Similarly, Atisa is quoted, pointing out what that essential meaning is by stating that all Dharmas "boil down to true reality (dharmata)."

yes. all is a reflection. and the truth at the center is still the same. that one single don't know.

[Miles Drake]

Would it be right to say,

"Buddhism or zen theorically consist of to forget (that) which doesn't exist?"

Hi. If a mind can understand that concept literally, it would be liberated. Kill all magical thinking and assumptions. If something cannot be directly interacted with using the physical senses, it probably is not worth thinking about.

Just something to investigate.

Peace
Miles

Wisdom first in all things.

[ONigmu]

Arguably,from a mahayana perspective sentient beings do not exist... But forgotten?


They become the forefront focus