Bodhicitta without compassion

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mudha
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Bodhicitta without compassion

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Hi all :hi:

I have a theoretical question:

my Rinpoche once mentioned that it would be possible to attain bodhicitta without compassion.

He did not elaborate so I'd like to ask you about it.

Thank you :hi:
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Could you elaborate a bit on the context of this statement anyway?
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mudha wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:11 am Hi all :hi:

I have a theoretical question:

my Rinpoche once mentioned that it would be possible to attain bodhicitta without compassion.

He did not elaborate so I'd like to ask you about it.

Thank you :hi:
Perhaps he meant without contrived, relative compassion?

The nature of mind/bodhicitta is not dependent on relative compassion, so as far as I understand, one could realize the nature of mind having not generated relative compassion; but once the nature of mind is understood, then compassion is naturally present.
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mudha wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:11 am Hi all :hi:

I have a theoretical question:

my Rinpoche once mentioned that it would be possible to attain bodhicitta without compassion.

He did not elaborate so I'd like to ask you about it.

Thank you :hi:
Bodhicitta is 99% about emptiness, when you understand emptiness compassion arise spontaneously.

/magnus
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Re: Bodhicitta without compassion

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heart wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 5:56 pm
mudha wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:11 am Hi all :hi:

I have a theoretical question:

my Rinpoche once mentioned that it would be possible to attain bodhicitta without compassion.

He did not elaborate so I'd like to ask you about it.

Thank you :hi:
Bodhicitta is 99% about emptiness, when you understand emptiness compassion arise spontaneously.

/magnus
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Re: Bodhicitta without compassion

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Out of emptiness and clarity comes deity. In my/former lineage of the teacher.
The deity is compassionate.
You receive the blessing of deity by doing accumulations.
I’m scratching my head because I don’t know how else to tie conclusions.
Practitioner connect to deity with compassion.
If I, practitioner, develop desire to help sentient beings and do not practice, then I have simply a desire without substance.
Maybe “keep practicing!” will bring understanding.
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