Help with deities of Longchen Nyingtik Refuge Tree

[jake5521]

Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me figure out who is who in the Longchen Nyingtik Refuge Tree. Thank you so much.

Refuge tree:
https://bit.ly/31HxGsh

1) Guru Padmasambhava
2) Yeshe Tsogyal
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6) Shakyamuni Buddha
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8) Green Tara
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12) Hayagriva
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14) Sengdongma
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16) Gonpo Maning (Mahakala)
17) Tsiu Marpo
18) Rahula
19) Ekajati
20) Dorje Lekpa
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23) Yellow Dzambala
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#26 - 33 (The Eight Great Bodhisattvas)
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48) Samantabhadra
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[Cinnabar]

Slightly different tree. But the general outline largely works.

longnying.jpg

[Fortyeightvows]

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[jake5521]

Thank you, this helps so much
Does anyone know the specifics about the rest? (I was able to update the list a lot, but still dont know exactly)

1) Guru Padmasambhava
2) Yeshe Tsogyal
3) Avalokiteshvara
4) Yumka Dechen Gyalmo
5) Kashyapa
6) Shakyamuni Buddha
7) Maitreya
8) Green Tara
9) Yamantaka
10)
11)
12) Hayagriva
13)
14) Sengdongma
15)
16) Gonpo Maning (Mahakala)
17) Tsiu Marpo
18) Rahula
19) Ekajati
20) Dorje Lekpa
21)
22)
23) Yellow Dzambala
24) Yudronma
25) Tseringma
#26 - 33 (The Eight Great Bodhisattvas)
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42) Jigme Lingpa
43) Longchenpa
44) Yeshe Tsogyal
45) Guru Rinpoche
46) Garab Dorje
47) Vajrasattva
48) Samantabhadra
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[Charlie123]

Thank you, this helps so much
Does anyone know the specifics about the rest? (I was able to update the list a lot, but still dont know exactly)

1) Guru Padmasambhava
2) Yeshe Tsogyal
3) Avalokiteshvara
4) Yumka Dechen Gyalmo
5) Kashyapa
6) Shakyamuni Buddha
7) Maitreya
8) Green Tara
9) Yamantaka
10)
11)
12) Hayagriva
13)
14) Sengdongma
15)
16) Gonpo Maning (Mahakala)
17) Tsiu Marpo
18) Rahula
19) Ekajati
20) Dorje Lekpa
21)
22)
23) Yellow Dzambala
24) Yudronma
25) Tseringma
#26 - 33 (The Eight Great Bodhisattvas)
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27)
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42) Jigme Lingpa
43) Longchenpa
44) Yeshe Tsogyal
45) Guru Rinpoche
46) Garab Dorje
47) Vajrasattva
48) Samantabhadra
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Tulku Thondup wrote a book that provides short bios for all the Longchen Nyinthig lineage masters from Samanthabadra down to modern masters like the fourth Dodrupchen. You should buy it.

[Fortyeightvows]

Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me figure out who is who in the Longchen Nyingtik Refuge Tree. Thank you so much.

Not exactly the same tree but this will help-

https://paul3968.pixnet.net/blog/post/3 ... 髓》傳承-皈依境圖解

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[lelopa]

Slightly different tree. But the general outline largely works.

longnying.jpg

The "who is who" for this thangka is wrong!
The explaination is for an other thangka.
The explaination from Fortyeightvows is the right one for this refuge tree posted by cinnabar!

[Cinnabar]

If you look at what I posted-- I never said the "who is who" of my image applied to the image in the OP, did I?
If you look at what I posted, I even say it was for a slightly different tree, right?
And if you look at what I posted, I say the general outline largely works. Which is true.

Row of protectors, row of deities. Buddhas of the Three Times. Thugje Chenpo & Dechen Gyalmo on either side.
Guru Rinpoche with Sangha of Bodhisattvas and Sangha of Arhats on either side. Lineages masters above.

Slightly different tree. But the general outline largely works.

longnying.jpg

The "who is who" for this thangka is wrong!
The explaination is for an other thangka.
The explaination from Fortyeightvows is the right one for this refuge tree posted by cinnabar!

[lelopa]

If you look at what I posted-- I never said the "who is who" of my image applied to the image in the OP, did I?
If you look at what I posted, I even say it was for a slightly different tree, right?
And if you look at what I posted, I say the general outline largely works. Which is true.

Row of protectors, row of deities. Buddhas of the Three Times. Thugje Chenpo & Dechen Gyalmo on either side.
Guru Rinpoche with Sangha of Bodhisattvas and Sangha of Arhats on either side. Lineages masters above.

Slightly different tree. But the general outline largely works.

longnying.jpg

The "who is who" for this thangka is wrong!
The explaination is for an other thangka.
The explaination from Fortyeightvows is the right one for this refuge tree posted by cinnabar!

Yes, I never said otherwise!

And if you look what I posted:
It wasn't meant as an offend, just as a little improvement....

But:
the recipient determines the message

[Cinnabar]

Understood.

[Pero]

Yes, I never said otherwise!

And if you look what I posted:
It wasn't meant as an offend, just as a little improvement....

But:
the recipient determines the message

Haha, also the sender determines the message too. You could use less (or not at all) exclamation marks.... I actually wondered why you were so upset about this.

[Cinnabar]

I actually wondered why you were so upset about this.

It is because I spoke out of place

[lelopa]

Yes, I never said otherwise!

And if you look what I posted:
It wasn't meant as an offend, just as a little improvement....

But:
the recipient determines the message

Haha, also the sender determines the message too. You could use less (or not at all) exclamation marks.... I actually wondered why you were so upset about this.

This I do not understand...
is an exclamation mark a sign of being upset?
upset about what??

maybe I don't know the meaning of an exclamation mark in a chat or forum, etc.??

[Pero]

Haha, also the sender determines the message too. You could use less (or not at all) exclamation marks.... I actually wondered why you were so upset about this.

This I do not understand...
is an exclamation mark a sign of being upset?
upset about what??

maybe I don't know the meaning of an exclamation mark in a chat or forum, etc.??

No, not necessarily. But the meaning of an exclamation mark is exactly what it says - indicating an exclamation: a sudden cry or remark expressing surprise, strong emotion, or pain.

[lelopa]

Haha, also the sender determines the message too. You could use less (or not at all) exclamation marks.... I actually wondered why you were so upset about this.

This I do not understand...
is an exclamation mark a sign of being upset?
upset about what??

maybe I don't know the meaning of an exclamation mark in a chat or forum, etc.??

No, not necessarily. But the meaning of an exclamation mark is exactly what it says - indicating an exclamation: a sudden cry or remark expressing surprise, strong emotion, or pain.

good to know.

Years ago using capital letters was just an emphasis for me..... until I was told it means shouting/ranting.

[Pero]

This I do not understand...
is an exclamation mark a sign of being upset?
upset about what??

maybe I don't know the meaning of an exclamation mark in a chat or forum, etc.??

No, not necessarily. But the meaning of an exclamation mark is exactly what it says - indicating an exclamation: a sudden cry or remark expressing surprise, strong emotion, or pain.

good to know.

Years ago using capital letters was just an emphasis for me..... until I was told it means shouting/ranting.

Haha yeah, that is a level higher.

[jake5521]

Thank you guys for all the help, I was just wondering if anyone knew anymore about the exact positions of the deities within the original linked tree?

https://bit.ly/31HxGsh

Thank you, tashi delek

[lelopa]

Thank you, this helps so much
Does anyone know the specifics about the rest? (I was able to update the list a lot, but still dont know exactly)

1) Guru Padmasambhava
2) Yeshe Tsogyal
3) Avalokiteshvara
4) Yumka Dechen Gyalmo
5) Kashyapa
6) Shakyamuni Buddha
7) Maitreya
8) Green Tara
9) Yamantaka
10) Möpa Drakngag, or Mamo Botong (?)
11) Chemchok Heruka (?)
12) Hayagriva
13) Vajrakilaya
14) Sengdongma
15)
16) Gonpo Maning (Mahakala)
17) Tsiu Marpo
18) Rahula
19) Ekajati
20) Dorje Lekpa
21) Pekar Gyalpo
22) Gonpo Legdan
23) Yellow Dzambala
24) Yudronma
25) Tseringma
#26 - 33 (The Eight Great Bodhisattvas)
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27)
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31)
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#34-41(8 Arhats)
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42) Jigme Lingpa
43) Longchenpa
44) Yeshe Tsogyal
45) Guru Rinpoche
46) Garab Dorje
47) Vajrasattva
48) Samantabhadra
49) Do Khyentse (?)
50) Thrisong Detsen
51) Vimalamitra
52) Manjushrimitra
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55) Jnanasutra (?)
56) Shri Singha
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68) Jigme Phuntsok
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[andreas.walsh]

10 would be Yang Dag heruka.


15 is Takhyung Barwa I think, altho it's small and unclear.

[lelopa]

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15 is Takhyung Barwa I think, altho it's small and unclear.

For me it's hard to believe they put a yidam among the protectors and guardians