Maintain awareness in sleep

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how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
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confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
Tenzin Wangyal teaches that in order to be aware during sleep you have to be aware during the daytime too. And that is I would say a universal instruction- Unfortunately this is not asap thing. But the good news is it is a matter of training so it is fairly easily achievable for a diligent practitioner.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche

For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.

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I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
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Matt J wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:02 pm I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
An important sleep appointment.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche

For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.

- Arya Sanghata Sutra
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Matt J wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:02 pm I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
Not able to do at will and need it to progress ahead
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confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:09 pm Not able to do at will and need it to progress ahead
It's more likely that it's the other way round: you need to progress ahead to be able to do it at will.

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confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:09 pm
Matt J wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:02 pm I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
Not able to do at will and need it to progress ahead
Dude, chill. Relax and do your best. Also it is best to find a teacher and then you wont be so confused mr Layman.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche

For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.

- Arya Sanghata Sutra
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Matt J wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:02 pm I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
Cat in burning building in dreams. Need to re-enter lucid dream to save cat.
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A Tibetan sleeping box for lack of a better description.
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Charlie123 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:35 am
Matt J wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:02 pm I am curious what sort of emergency one would have that can only be solved by a fairly high level practice involving awareness in sleep?
confusedlayman wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:40 pm how to instruction from tibet or mahayana method?

Really needed asap
Cat in burning building in dreams. Need to re-enter lucid dream to save cat.
very funny but i can you help me seriously? I think human life is too brief ...
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Need more instruction of this.. she tells the truth of what I want
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If you want to grow corn, you have to till the soil, then plant seeds, then make sure they get enough water/sunshine, eliminate weeds and pests, etc. You're basically asking how to grow corn instantly. You cannot--- it is impossible.
confusedlayman wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:55 pm very funny but i can you help me seriously? I think human life is too brief ...
:jumping:
Charlie123 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:35 am Cat in burning building in dreams. Need to re-enter lucid dream to save cat.
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The certainty of death demands urgency of practice; but that does not mean speed. It means steady, consistent, and focused practice. It means relaxing enough to open yourself to realty, not applying effort with gritted teeth.
A martial arts student went to his teacher and said earnestly, “I am devoted to studying your martial system. How long will it take me to master it.”

The teacher’s reply was casual, “Ten years.” Impatiently, the student answered, “But I want to master it faster than that. I will work very hard. I will practice every day, ten or more hours a day if I have to. How long will it take then?”

The teacher thought for a moment, “20 years.”
Where now is my mind engaged? - Shantideva
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Jeff H wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:39 pm The certainty of death demands urgency of practice; but that does not mean speed. It means steady, consistent, and focused practice. It means relaxing enough to open yourself to realty, not applying effort with gritted teeth.
A martial arts student went to his teacher and said earnestly, “I am devoted to studying your martial system. How long will it take me to master it.”

The teacher’s reply was casual, “Ten years.” Impatiently, the student answered, “But I want to master it faster than that. I will work very hard. I will practice every day, ten or more hours a day if I have to. How long will it take then?”

The teacher thought for a moment, “20 years.”
Who said its advance practice? Its basic thing
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confusedlayman wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:37 pm Who said its advance practice? Its basic thing
The tone of your posts sound like you are experiencing impatience with the process. I was addressing that.
Where now is my mind engaged? - Shantideva
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