are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
Ability to Control the Weather
Ability to Control the Weather
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it's a siddhi (or riddhi?) or a heritage from a siddha.yagmort wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:34 pm [Mod note: This quote was taken from this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26392#p404144 ]
are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
you can have the attainment, or develop the capacity if you are descendant of a siddha with the siddhi. i heard malcolm saying this last part, in the rigpa rangdrol and rigpa rangshar podcast in wisdom publications.
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Good connection w nagas etc
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There is a long interview in a scholastic book (can't remember the name right now) with Khetsun Sangpo Rinpoche who was a weather controller in Tibet. As far as I can remember it involved threatening and controlling various invisible beings. If the weather controller failed the farmers blamed him/her. Khetsun Sangpo Rinpoche said he was glad he didn't have to do it anymore.yagmort wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:34 pm [Mod note: This quote was taken from this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26392#p404144 ]
are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
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Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
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it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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I would say that a huge majority of us here are incapable of controlling our bowel actions, when nature calls, and we want to control the weather?
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Yeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pmit is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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Interesting thanksjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pmit is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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Now you are just making things up.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pmit is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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of course.heart wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:29 pmNow you are just making things up.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pmit is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.Arnoud wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pmYeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pmit is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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Possibly. But I do know there are practices for transforming one's shit and piss into amrita for the suffering Preta to consume. Given how often we go to toilet, this is probably a much handier and easier to realise practice, than controlling the weather. Given we do not have the siddhi of controlling our bowels, further than tightening our sphincter, maybe it is a more important practice to work on?
I do know of a practice for controlling temperature though, very simple actually, it is called "The Dakini's Warming and Cooling Breath of Pressing the on/off Button on the A/C Control".
There is no Ngondro or ritual reading necessary for this one.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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But seriously: The spirits involved in controlling the weather are fickle bastards, to say the least.
You cannot afford any mistakes in the offerings and practices and those mistakes can have serious consequences.
I recommend trying to control your own mind first, as this is a prerequisite to controlling the minds of others.
You cannot afford any mistakes in the offerings and practices and those mistakes can have serious consequences.
I recommend trying to control your own mind first, as this is a prerequisite to controlling the minds of others.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Bodhicitta being most important I reckonjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pmwell, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.Arnoud wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pmYeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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one cannot perform any karmic action without perfect ethic, perfect boddhicita.AJP wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:32 pmBodhicitta being most important I reckonjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pmwell, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
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Thank youjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:01 pmone cannot perform any karmic action without perfect ethic, perfect boddhicita.AJP wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:32 pmBodhicitta being most important I reckonjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pm
well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
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Bone lineage.
As an aside, the term "bone lineage" was so weird to me when I first heard of it. Spirit mediumship is something that runs in my family, and in our language we call this and other in-born abilities "dons" or "gifts". Bone lineage is so on the nose.
As an aside, the term "bone lineage" was so weird to me when I first heard of it. Spirit mediumship is something that runs in my family, and in our language we call this and other in-born abilities "dons" or "gifts". Bone lineage is so on the nose.
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