Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
Hi,
These days I do a shitro practice every day for my dead relative, and I wonder when I send lights from peaceful deities toward that person, if the five dhjani buddhas with families in the centre of my body are in particular directions?
Vairocana of course would be in the center, then we have Aksobhya in the east, Ratnasambhawa in the south Amitabha in the west and Amoghasiddhi in the north. In that case, facing forward, which one would be in the front?
There is a clear explanation of this when we do Mandarava practice, in Shitro I don’t know. Please help.
These days I do a shitro practice every day for my dead relative, and I wonder when I send lights from peaceful deities toward that person, if the five dhjani buddhas with families in the centre of my body are in particular directions?
Vairocana of course would be in the center, then we have Aksobhya in the east, Ratnasambhawa in the south Amitabha in the west and Amoghasiddhi in the north. In that case, facing forward, which one would be in the front?
There is a clear explanation of this when we do Mandarava practice, in Shitro I don’t know. Please help.
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.Sumeru wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:34 pm Hi,
These days I do a shitro practice every day for my dead relative, and I wonder when I send lights from peaceful deities toward that person, if the five dhjani buddhas with families in the centre of my body are in particular directions?
Vairocana of course would be in the center, then we have Aksobhya in the east, Ratnasambhawa in the south Amitabha in the west and Amoghasiddhi in the north. In that case, facing forward, which one would be in the front?
There is a clear explanation of this when we do Mandarava practice, in Shitro I don’t know. Please help.
keep up that practice, do your best.
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
I've just remembered and checked that in description of the refuge tree, the east branch is also in the front, so it corresponds, thanks. But where would Vairocana be then?javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
In the center.Sumeru wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 pmI've just remembered and checked that in description of the refuge tree, the east branch is also in the front, so it corresponds, thanks. But where would Vairocana be then?javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.
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if you are applying Mingyur Dorje's shitro according to ChNN's transmission then in clock-wise sense: in front vajra, then buddha, ratna, padma, karma, to find vajra again. if one have capacity and can use colors is good, but name is a minucia.Sumeru wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 pmI've just remembered and checked that in description of the refuge tree, the east branch is also in the front, so it corresponds, thanks. But where would Vairocana be then?javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.
otherwise i don't know.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
Vairocana is in the center of the mandala with Samantabhadra in the center of Vairocana heart.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:22 pmif you are applying Mingyur Dorje's shitro according to ChNN's transmission then in clock-wise sense: in front vajra, then buddha, ratna, padma, karma, to find vajra again. if one have capacity and can use colors is good, but name is a minucia.Sumeru wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 pmI've just remembered and checked that in description of the refuge tree, the east branch is also in the front, so it corresponds, thanks. But where would Vairocana be then?javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.
otherwise i don't know.
The profound path of the master.
-- Virūpa, Vajra Lines
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
well i haven't hear it, you hear it from ChNN? maybe someone could check please so this can be corrected?Sennin wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 11:02 pmVairocana is in the center of the mandala with Samantabhadra in the center of Vairocana heart.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:22 pmif you are applying Mingyur Dorje's shitro according to ChNN's transmission then in clock-wise sense: in front vajra, then buddha, ratna, padma, karma, to find vajra again. if one have capacity and can use colors is good, but name is a minucia.
otherwise i don't know.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
TEACHINGS ON SHITRO AND YANGTIjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:00 amwell i haven't hear it, you hear it from ChNN? maybe someone could check please so this can be corrected?Sennin wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 11:02 pmVairocana is in the center of the mandala with Samantabhadra in the center of Vairocana heart.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:22 pm
if you are applying Mingyur Dorje's shitro according to ChNN's transmission then in clock-wise sense: in front vajra, then buddha, ratna, padma, karma, to find vajra again. if one have capacity and can use colors is good, but name is a minucia.
otherwise i don't know.
I'll pm you. I've probably already said too much.
The profound path of the master.
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
right.Sennin wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:41 amTEACHINGS ON SHITRO AND YANGTIjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:00 amwell i haven't hear it, you hear it from ChNN? maybe someone could check please so this can be corrected?
I'll pm you. I've probably already said too much.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
Yep, all in the book. Thank you guys.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:17 amright.Sennin wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:41 amTEACHINGS ON SHITRO AND YANGTIjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:00 am
well i haven't hear it, you hear it from ChNN? maybe someone could check please so this can be corrected?
I'll pm you. I've probably already said too much.
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
i just checked the oral teachings and is as i mentioned. in the shitro explanation video is around min 8:30. Maybe in the book Teachings on Shitro and Yanti also shows the way Sennin says, we should check that too.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
Maybe you misunderstood, in the mandala there is the center and the four directions. See page. 80 of the text.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 7:19 pmi just checked the oral teachings and is as i mentioned. in the shitro explanation video is around min 8:30. Maybe in the book Teachings on Shitro and Yanti also shows the way Sennin says, we should check that too.
The profound path of the master.
-- Virūpa, Vajra Lines
-- Virūpa, Vajra Lines
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
If vajra is east, ratna-south, padma-west, karma-north.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:22 pmif you are applying Mingyur Dorje's shitro according to ChNN's transmission then in clock-wise sense: in front vajra, then buddha, ratna, padma, karma, to find vajra again. if one have capacity and can use colors is good, but name is a minucia.Sumeru wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 pmI've just remembered and checked that in description of the refuge tree, the east branch is also in the front, so it corresponds, thanks. But where would Vairocana be then?javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm in the middle is samantabhadra and samantabhadri, and in front is vajra family. the rest you can deduce.
otherwise i don't know.
Then naturally buddha is in the center.
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well, tell me the page so i can read. i just told where to find what i'm saying, literally Rinpoche saying it. i mean, maybe there are two ways, i'm not trying to discreditSennin wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:01 pmMaybe you misunderstood, in the mandala there is the center and the four directions. See page. 80 of the text.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 7:19 pmi just checked the oral teachings and is as i mentioned. in the shitro explanation video is around min 8:30. Maybe in the book Teachings on Shitro and Yanti also shows the way Sennin says, we should check that too.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
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Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
you are right, p. 80javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:05 pmwell, tell me the page so i can read. i just told where to find what i'm saying, literally Rinpoche saying it. i mean, maybe there are two ways, i'm not trying to discreditSennin wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:01 pmMaybe you misunderstood, in the mandala there is the center and the four directions. See page. 80 of the text.javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 7:19 pm
i just checked the oral teachings and is as i mentioned. in the shitro explanation video is around min 8:30. Maybe in the book Teachings on Shitro and Yanti also shows the way Sennin says, we should check that too.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Shitro practice and Five Dhjani Buddhas
The profound path of the master.
-- Virūpa, Vajra Lines
-- Virūpa, Vajra Lines