Rimpoche did not only teach longsal. Thats reduccionist.Tongnyid Dorje wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:35 pmIm sorry, but this is pretty naive view. What we are talking here is future of IDC and Rinpoches transmission. If you want to follow a dzogchen teacher, there are plenty around who can really help you with the practice, but this is not continuation of Rinpoches teachings in any way. His teachings are very specific, and yes its called Longsal.Tata1 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:25 pmHave you read the karmapas letter? Have you heard the karmapa say it? As much as i find a lot of inspiration in the karmapa asking rimpoche to teach it still based in faith since i was not even born when the 16th Karmapa was around. The confirmation for me and what makes me choose one teacher over the other eventually is his or her ability to mature me as a student.Tongnyid Dorje wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:27 pm
Rinpoche was asked by Karmapa to teach, he didnt start by himself. He had a letter from Karmapa. All of Rinpoches student dont have his complete lineage, nor even SMS instructors. He didnt passed His complete Longsal to anybody, except perhaps this unknown china!nepal guy and His children. I personaly recieved "only" two elaborate wangs from Him thanks to SMS training and it wasnt part of His Longsal cycle.
Having linage does not mean having the complete teachings of rimpoche. Some of rimpoches students may (or may not) be able to comunicate the dzogchen principle without ever even metioning longsal. If you have realization you can comunicate if you dont you cant. There is not much more than that
Linage holder doesnt mean to hold the entirly if your master teachers. For example some rimpoches apoint as a linage holder of their dzogchen teachings to one guy and maybe another for a specific set of tantric teachings.
For example mingyur rimpoche is a linage holder a specific
Dzogchen cycle trassmited by Nyoshul Khen but that doesnt mean that he holds the linage of the entire things that Nyoshul Khen transmited in his lifetime.
And no. This conversation started with your statment about who would receieve teachings from a "random" guy refering to the posibility of reaciving dzogchen from a student of rimpoche.
Who will take care of IDC is a different issue as i stated above.