Many thanks for your explanation indeed. Can we say:Queequeg wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:41 pmZhiyi studied and practiced the Huayen Sutra intensively and ultimately relegated it to an inferior position to the Lotus Sutra because it mixed Gradual and Sudden, Provisional and Perfect teachings.thomaslaw wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:21 amThe Huayan sutra states:
"If people would like to know
All Buddhas of the three periods of time,
They should contemplate the nature of the Dharma Realm:
Everything is made from the mind alone."
Do you suggest that the Tiantai master or the Lotus sutra does not teach: Everything is made from the mind alone?
Zhiyi would not agree that dharmadhatu is mind alone because that proposes a vertical relationship privileging mind. This is a biased view and considered an inferior teaching by Zhiyi. Not rejected, but inferior.
Thomaslaw, you really ought to take these fellas' word for what Zhiyi teaches, especially where they support their assertions with quotes. Asking your question 10 different ways is not going to trick them into agreeing with your thesis. If you want to hear the unvarnished polemics of the Tiantai/Tendai tradition, they straight up say that the Huayen school stole Tiantai teachings and then corrupted them.
The Lotus sutra does not have the words or teaching: 一切唯心造
Zhiyi follows the Lotus sutra, and considers the 'mind alone' teaching is inferior, but not rejected.