heart wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:48 pm
And if punishment = no harm, then? If you prefer.
I'm not wise enough to design better plumbing. But when there's a mess, someone has to clean it up.
In fact it's only when things get real like that, that you truly learn what your practice has turned out to be.
Noone in their right minds would choose to be the cleaner-upper. But sometimes there's no choice. If what these women are saying is true, that is very, very, very, very, very bad.
Another hypothetical just occurred to me. You have two men. One has a conscience. Ten years in jail may actually rehabilitate him in some way, who knows. Or, at the least, may prevent him from committing more crimes when he gets out, because he won't want to go back. In other words, the suffering this man spends in prison is somehow skillful, it has a result. The other has no conscience at all. Somehow, we know this, as a fact. One, ten, a hundred years in prison won't affect him in the least. No rehabilitation, no prevention, even - when he gets out he'll just do the same thing, again. So the suffering of this man in prison isn't skillful at all. If the suffering of the guy who has a conscience is somehow skillful, but the suffering of the guy without a conscience isn't - do we sent the first guy to prison, but let the other go free?