Tenma wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:41 am
climb-up wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:47 am
Tenma wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:45 am
Did you not read my change in understanding after having that question debunked?
I was still curious what made you think it in the first place and if it was based on how I phrased my initial post.
Well, it sounded like that you were saying that the New Age got it right, and I've tried New Age practices, and trust me, they only got me more confused, especially with the Kundalini meditation of 7 chakras. Also, this was the path that led me to a gyalpo practice that I gave up on and converted to actual 3 Jewels.
Plus, Blavatsky is very, very exaggerated. So, I can't always trust her. Either way, she probably made it all up.
Huh, maybe posting out of context didn't make it clear that I don't endorse anything by Blavatsky; although as jkarlins says, she was quite a character!
She did have real teachers, they just weren't Buddhist or Tibetan (except, apparently, for some Geshes that she misunderstood) but she ABSOLUTELY made a lot of it up (I would guess most, but I have no way of knowing).
In re: "new age practices," that is a very broad brush stroke. There are many new age practices which absolutely 'get it right' in regards to what they say they are doing, but what they are doing is generally not seeking liberation.
In terms of new age practices, "Kundalini" practices are possibly the worst. That is also a broad brushstroke, and I don't know what you are doing, but most of them have zero historical precedent and while there are any people who do them and seem absolutely fine, there are a lot of stories of people absolutely fu#$!ng themselves up trying to do them.
Relatedly, even the Key of Solomon et. al, which you mentioned, is a late comer compared to many Tibetan and Indian practices. The oldest copies of the Hygromanteia (the oldest grimoire, on which the Key is based) are from the 14th century, two hundred years after Guru Rinpoche came to Tibet and 500 years after Buddhism came. The Tibetans also kept the tradition alive, learnt from mistakes, passed it down and built upon it from the beginning whereas Europeans had/have to reinvent the wheel based on a textual tradition so...
...even that is "new age" from a perspective.
Sorry, that was even more a ramble than I had expected it to be.