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Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

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Hi guys.
Yesterday I received a Vajrayogini empowerment from Drikung Kagyu lineage. Unfortunately, I have only Polish sadhana text transcription. I wonder if anyone here will be kind enough to help me learn the Tibetan syllables.
I need E, PAM, RAM, BAM, HAM, JOM, HRING, MOM.
Please someone help me. I waited a long time for this abhisheka. and I would sit down to practice this as soon as possible.
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Cześć, część z tych sylab znajdziesz pod tym linkiem http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... _Syllables
Ta mała czarna kropeczka przy sylabach to nie jest ich część, to znak oddzielający sylaby.
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Tanaduk wrote:Cześć, część z tych sylab znajdziesz pod tym linkiem http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... _Syllables
Ta mała czarna kropeczka przy sylabach to nie jest ich część, to znak oddzielający sylaby.
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Konchog1 wrote:Are those circles required in Dhih and Hrih?
Two circles on the right? Yes, of course.
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But small dot on the right is not required.
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Thank you Tanaduk :thanks: . I've E, PAM, RAM, BAM, HAM and PHET. Does anybody know how look JOM, HRING and MOM syllables? Anyone?

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Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?
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lasirene wrote:Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?
there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
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For HRING look at first verse of prayer: http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... ati-praise
HRING from post above is wrong but MOM is OK.
In polish is JOM in english is YOM :smile:

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Guys, you are great! :woohoo: thank you! :hug:
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narraboth wrote:there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
I know it's common for "dz" to replace "j" in a lot of places (dzambala instead of jambhala, for example).

Is there some reason ཇ (ja) does not get used?
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narraboth wrote:
lasirene wrote:Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?
there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
Yes there is.

ཇ is JA
ཛ is DZA
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DespreTine wrote:
narraboth wrote:there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
I know it's common for "dz" to replace "j" in a lot of places (dzambala instead of jambhala, for example).

Is there some reason ཇ (ja) does not get used?
Dzambhala is transliterated from Sanksirt and the Sanskrit 'ja' actually does not sound like the Tibetan 'ja'. It seems that because of this, they choose to transliterate ज ('ja') as ཛ ('dza').
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The hring mom I posted is from a drikung vy sadhana. fpmt's sadhana shows it the same way.
We are talking about the armor, right?
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Fortyeightvows wrote:The hring mom I posted is from a drikung vy sadhana. fpmt's sadhana shows it the same way.
We are talking about the armor, right?
That's right. Did I wrote the other syllables correctly?

Do you remember the precise lineage of this practice? Lama Tsering Rinpoche said that it comes from the Dakini of Dharmakaya -> Maitripa (?) -> Marpa -> Milarepa. But I'm not sure whether it was Maitripa...
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I'm pretty sure the syllables I posted are correct. both of them. I checked another copy of the sadhana and it has them the same way.

The character that user tanadruk put for hring is actually the character for hrih. a google search confirms this.

Of course this doesn't explain how it transliterated in the link to the praise of sarasvati

If there is someone else on here who really knows, please clarify.
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tomamundsen wrote:Dzambhala is transliterated from Sanksirt and the Sanskrit 'ja' actually does not sound like the Tibetan 'ja'. It seems that because of this, they choose to transliterate ज ('ja') as ཛ ('dza').
Thanks! I don't really know much about Sanskrit and I'm still very new to Tibetan.
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