Hi Weitsicht,
Thanks for your comments intended to put the delicate flower at ease. I talk tough, but am extremely sensitive, as Grigoris, trained in spotting this sort of thing, pointed out. Not a helpful quality posting on a public board. One should cultivate a thicker skin.
A bear-hug from Greg is one thing, that's just how he rolls and not to do where his heart is at. I have no trouble engaging with him, or disengaging on the subject, as I did.
But when another luminary started a thread about Solipsistic & Nihilistic views finding their way back to DW, I reassessed G's comments in that light.
In my experience with the crowdsourcing of ideas & opinions, in general, if a couple of people flag something, then there it may be indicative others interpreted something a similar way.
Both have since clarified and so I'll do my best not to be such a wuss.
You said:
Drenpa, just accept for the moment that there are things around you and happening to you for which you don't have the antennae yet to see it as clearly as to define as "your experience". Develop this kind of openness with the firm belief that you have the potential to discover in this precious life. Also, probably you are aware (at least theoretically) that there is no "I" or as the Zen may say "the mirror is empty".
I'm a character in flatland, and there are dimensions I'm not privy to with my limited perception. I can dig it.
As for not fixating on or reifying this sense of "I am" that seems so hardwired for me, I guess you can see by the way this thread unfolded how I'm doing with that. Mixed reviews & YMMV.
I would like to give you one example that goes beyond individual experience, I read about that lately.A woman from Eastern Europe came to a German Hospital with intestinal pain. The hospital was full, she had to wait for long time. Without being aware that she was pregnant she gave birth to a boy at the hospital's toilet and put the boy into the dustbin. When discovered, she needed to undergo surgery due to ruptures. Many people were looking for the baby but no-one found it in the dustbin until next morning the cleaning lady came to empty the dustbin. The woman had a trauma about her mother's birth to her younger brother and subconsciously her baby boy was not supposed to be. Not only to herself, also to her fiancé and to the police and the hospital staff and everyone who searched that room. Her reality had a quality in which it became others' reality.
Interesting story. If I've understood you:
1) This woman had a horrible experience. She internalized this without being fully aware of the implications of how deep this went.
2) This cause had such a profound effect on her, that she was able to somehow stuff the fact that she was pregnant, gave birth, and filed her newborn under "G". Without even being conscious of this. Not sure of the veracity, but let's say for sake of argument that's how it went down. She was very ill, and this really could have happened, as shocking and repulsive as it sounds.
3) Her personal karma, the extent of which was not even something conscious to her, somehow influenced these other people involved to the point that they too couldn't consciously parse what had happened and they shared her vision of "no baby".
Is that a correct assessment of your use of this story to illustrate an exception to my stated rule, for lack of a better term, that karma is experienced by me as primarily happening to ME - or at least from my perspective as the subject-pole of all my experience?
If so, please indicate, or reframe so I'm not wasting your time discussing what's not your position. But if you're saying that this poor woman's unfortunate experience, a result of causes and conditions manifesting in her continuum, was somehow the primary cause for these other people to have the experience they did in missing the baby in the dumpster, I don't necessarily buy it.
It's possible that this was a condition or secondary cause, but I don't see why you'd decide this was the primary force behind the experience each individual had that day.
But first, I want to be clear what you're saying here, so please elaborate. I'm interested, we can discuss.