6 senior priests / why?

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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:47 am The thing is this.
there is a huge difference when you believe Nichiren Shonin is like the Eternal Buddha and MyoHo RenGe Kyo is due to Him , cause He is the Buddha of Kuon Ganjo.
And
The Eternal Buddha is none other than MyoHo RenGe Kyo .

you cannot sit in front of Gohonzon and chant and have the same effect. Two different paradigms , not forgetting the narratives.

The subtleties creep in , one of them goes against the truth.
Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't

So be it
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Like smoke that reaches far beyond the clouds.--nichimoku shonin. Third high priest of Nichiren Shoshu

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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Shotenzenjin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:01 am
Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:47 am The thing is this.
there is a huge difference when you believe Nichiren Shonin is like the Eternal Buddha and MyoHo RenGe Kyo is due to Him , cause He is the Buddha of Kuon Ganjo.
And
The Eternal Buddha is none other than MyoHo RenGe Kyo .

you cannot sit in front of Gohonzon and chant and have the same effect. Two different paradigms , not forgetting the narratives.

The subtleties creep in , one of them goes against the truth.
Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't

So be it
you are projecting yourself upon me...

it's not about what other people believe ,it's what they bring to the table.
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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:25 am
Shotenzenjin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:01 am
Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:47 am The thing is this.
there is a huge difference when you believe Nichiren Shonin is like the Eternal Buddha and MyoHo RenGe Kyo is due to Him , cause He is the Buddha of Kuon Ganjo.
And
The Eternal Buddha is none other than MyoHo RenGe Kyo .

you cannot sit in front of Gohonzon and chant and have the same effect. Two different paradigms , not forgetting the narratives.

The subtleties creep in , one of them goes against the truth.
Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't

So be it
you are projecting yourself upon me...

it's not about what other people believe ,it's what they bring to the table.
We all bring different things to the table. And no I'm not projecting.
Generation's shall pass, our determination shall grow, at the foot of Mount Fuji
Like smoke that reaches far beyond the clouds.--nichimoku shonin. Third high priest of Nichiren Shoshu

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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Shotenzenjin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:43 am
Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:25 am
Shotenzenjin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:01 am

Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't

So be it
you are projecting yourself upon me...

it's not about what other people believe ,it's what they bring to the table.
We all bring different things to the table. And no I'm not projecting.
you are the one saying
Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't
you are becoming annoyingly tedious ...this puriel attempt at pigeon holing me instead of debate...
you come up with this online forum sandbox shit.

your posts are combative..not towards the substance of debate but my person ..and yes you are projecting..
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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:55 am
Shotenzenjin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:43 am
Minobu wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:25 am

you are projecting yourself upon me...

it's not about what other people believe ,it's what they bring to the table.
We all bring different things to the table. And no I'm not projecting.
you are the one saying
Why do you care so much what other people do?

Nichiren shoshu believes what it does you don't
you are becoming annoyingly tedious ...this puriel attempt at pigeon holing me instead of debate...
you come up with this online forum sandbox shit.

your posts are combative..not towards the substance of debate but my person ..and yes you are projecting..
No your the one projecting I simply asked a question.

I am not interested in a debate. I don't debate others of different religions but when mine is brought up I'll participate in a discussion.
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Like smoke that reaches far beyond the clouds.--nichimoku shonin. Third high priest of Nichiren Shoshu

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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Queequeg wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Shoho wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:37 pm
Queequeg wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:20 pm

Merely translating doesn't establish competence.
That may or may not be true.
What it does is show what was written. That is a starting point for a discussion.

To call it following a rabbit hole shows a lack of compassion and a lack of seeking the truth.
You seem to think indicate that wanting to find the truth is some sort of worthless endeavor.
Gassho
LOL. I can put that through Google translate, and I can tell you right now, its not a competent translation. A fellow named Martin Bradley did some translations... competence I suppose is in the eye of the beholder.

Some things are just so silly, the truth about them is of no value. Is Kim and Kanye's marriage on the rocks? I'm sure there is a truth to be discovered. But who cares? I'm sure someone does.

I spent a lot of time in the rabbit hole. The rabbit hole comes down to this - spoiler alert - do you accept a couple documents of dubious authenticity or do you not? Most people make that judgment based on their team loyalties. The truth of the team.
What are you talking about?
Google translate?
This is directly from the gosho in Japanese. Would you like it in the more modern kanji or the original.
How would you know. You can’t read it. Maybe you should learn to read the languages involved. Then you wouldn’t have wasted your time down the rabbit hole. You told Dr. Rogow that he only brings his own ideas yo the table. It’s the same with you.
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Re: 6 senior priests / why?

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Minobu wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:40 pm
Shoho wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:14 pm

Kanjin Honzon Sho
如来滅後五五百歳始観心本尊抄 文永一〇年四月二五日 五二歳 本朝沙門 日蓮撰
ま か し かん
well this is real fun on an iphone.
you have been on about this translation stuff , since you landed here...and most here can't read the original.

so ya you prove you can copy paste , totally annoying by the way, but can you give us the translation .

we have been waiting, it's not enough to say everyone else doesn't know how to translate properly including Nichiren ShoShu , except you.

and make sure you give a disclaimer that it is your translation from your head with no actual approval of Nichiren shoshu or Nichiren shu.

if you say you are working on it or any other excuse , you should apologize to everyone for doing this sort of thing.

with no actual translation given after all this talk of you know better...you just end up looking like a troll, or worst , someone with (you fill in the blank)
In a posted on this thread i listed the main points from the Nichiren Shu English gosho.
Read for comprehension.
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