Changing tradition and Guru yoga

[Vajradhara]

Hello everyone,

I found myself changing tradition and i fear my practice of guru yoga could be weaken by this. I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Thank you

[Schrödinger’s Yidam]

There might be slight differences in the practice between traditions. I’m told minor variations in mudras, implements, and sadhanas can be important within the context of a system (lineage) of practices. So it’s possibly advantageous to take another initiation for the same practice.

[Malcolm]

Hello everyone,

I found myself changing tradition and i fear my practice of guru yoga could be weaken by this. I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Thank you

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

[Schrödinger’s Yidam]

Hello everyone,

I found myself changing tradition and i fear my practice of guru yoga could be weaken by this. I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Thank you

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

[Ayu]

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[kausalya]

I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Is there a reason why you aren’t talking to your current guru about the change? Unless there is a very good reason not to, don’t be afraid to talk to them.

The best scenario is to get their “permission” for this—not because you can’t make your own decisions, but because the best way to honour your guru is with your honesty. Ideally, they should also respect your decision.

Please, don’t fall into the trap of keeping things from your guru when you don’t have to. If they question you, you should see it that they want to make sure you’re going to be in good hands.

[Ayu]

I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Is there a reason why you aren’t talking to your current guru about the change? Unless there is a very good reason not to, don’t be afraid to talk to them.

The best scenario is to get their “permission” for this—not because you can’t make your own decisions, but because the best way to honour your guru is with your honesty. Ideally, they should also respect your decision.

Please, don’t fall into the trap of keeping things from your guru when you don’t have to. If they question you, you should see it that they want to make sure you’re going to be in good hands.

It is possible to have good reasons not to talk to the person one has been following so far.

[Hazel]

I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Is there a reason why you aren’t talking to your current guru about the change? Unless there is a very good reason not to, don’t be afraid to talk to them.

The best scenario is to get their “permission” for this—not because you can’t make your own decisions, but because the best way to honour your guru is with your honesty. Ideally, they should also respect your decision.

Please, don’t fall into the trap of keeping things from your guru when you don’t have to. If they question you, you should see it that they want to make sure you’re going to be in good hands.

It is possible to have good reasons not to talk to the person one has been following so far.

It's important to recognize that there are scenarios where someone is trying to leave a harmful situation and further engaging with it is not only a bad idea, but dangerous to someone's spiritual wellbeing. Some of these scenarios are tricky to talk about publicly.

I recently had to leave a teacher after certain revelations. How I handled it was to have compassion for the situation he found himself in, but also recognize I need to do what's best for my spiritual well being. I treasure the lessons I learned from him that improved my life and look forward to learning new ones from someone else.

[Vajradhara]

Hello everyone,

I found myself changing tradition and i fear my practice of guru yoga could be weaken by this. I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Thank you

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

Do you mean to look at everyone as an emanation of Vajradhara?

[Vajradhara]

There might be slight differences in the practice between traditions. I’m told minor variations in mudras, implements, and sadhanas can be important within the context of a system (lineage) of practices. So it’s possibly advantageous to take another initiation for the same practice.

So you suggest continuing to hold as root guru the one you received initiation from and then, when the time is right, to get another initiation with the new lineage?

[Tata1]

There might be slight differences in the practice between traditions. I’m told minor variations in mudras, implements, and sadhanas can be important within the context of a system (lineage) of practices. So it’s possibly advantageous to take another initiation for the same practice.

So you suggest continuing to hold as root guru the one you received initiation from and then, when the time is right, to get another initiation with the new lineage?

One does not "choose" a root guru

[Schrödinger’s Yidam]

There might be slight differences in the practice between traditions. I’m told minor variations in mudras, implements, and sadhanas can be important within the context of a system (lineage) of practices. So it’s possibly advantageous to take another initiation for the same practice.

So you suggest continuing to hold as root guru the one you received initiation from and then, when the time is right, to get another initiation with the new lineage?

You can have.many gurus, of many traditions. It’s a good idea to keep your samayas with them.

[Ayu]

So you suggest continuing to hold as root guru the one you received initiation from and then, when the time is right, to get another initiation with the new lineage?

You can have.many gurus, of many traditions. It’s a good idea to keep your samayas with them.

Hello Vajradhara,

I think in your case this is the very best advice:

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

[Malcolm]

Hello everyone,

I found myself changing tradition and i fear my practice of guru yoga could be weaken by this. I still keep the samayas and vows taken with my previous guru but i didn't speak about my change with them.

Do you know how to manage this situation? Should i retake the initiation with the tradition i'm following right now?

Thank you

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

Do you mean to look at everyone as an emanation of Vajradhara?

I mean that you visualize Vajradhara, and you understand that Vajradhara embodies all of your gurus.

Unify all gurus in one guru yoga.

[Vajradhara]

Unify all gurus in one guruyoga.

Do you mean to look at everyone as an emanation of Vajradhara?

I mean that you visualize Vajradhara, and you understand that Vajradhara embodies all of your gurus.

Unify all gurus in one guru yoga.

Thank you