what is Namtoza ?

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What is Namtoza Initiation ? anyone knows ?

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Namtose? Known as "vaishravana" in Sanskrit...

Namtose is a "protector" in the Karma Kagyu scheme of things....he's also known as one of the 4 directional gaurdians. He's also associated with "wealth."

http://tsemtulku.com/resources/buddhas/vaishravana/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does that help?
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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Many thanks - do not know the name in tibetan

It is the 4 heavenly kings - the northern king and the richest king amongst the 4 kings :twothumbsup:
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Namtösa is the Tibetan name of Vaishravana who is ,as has been said before, the guardian of the northern direction associated with wealth. He is also one of the Karma Kagyu protectors of the Khor Nga.

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what is Khor Nga ??
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"Khor Nga" means, most likely, that this is a Five (nga) deity Mandala (Khor, from KyilKhor).

I'm assuming this must be referring to a five deity practice of Namtose.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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I was referring to the five activity protectors you see often in the retinue of Dorje Bernakchen.
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Oops, didn't read the original comment, only the question about what "Khor Nga" meant. You're correct, of course, about the "Mandala Of Dorje Bernagchen" and the five "retinue."
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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