I just feel that ngöndro in the Kamtsang tradition is very advanced practice. It got a sadhana and teachings on Mahamudra connected to it so what Malcolm say that you should have the empowerment and the pointing-out to do it seems quite reasonable.Grigoris wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 7:06 pmWhat? What are you talking about?Probably because when you do it in 3 year retreat, first you do Vajrakilaya to remove obstacles. Given that outside of the retreat most people will not follow the program...Also, the Karma Kamtsang Ngöndro actually contain a short Vajrayogini sadhana after the guru yoga, but for some reason they always remove it from the translations.Ummm... Actually I know a number of teachers that do.Also no one is teaching the Mahamudra to someone that finished that Ngöndro even tough that is the teaching (Mahamudra eliminating the darkness of ignorance) that is directly connected with it.
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