Does shedra style debate have any place in the Dzogchen tradition?

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dharmafootsteps
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Does shedra style debate have any place in the Dzogchen tradition?

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As the title says, is this kind of debate useful to sharpen your conceptual understanding given that Dzogchen is predicated on direct perception?
Malcolm
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dharmafootsteps wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:17 pm As the title says, is this kind of debate useful to sharpen your conceptual understanding given that Dzogchen is predicated on direct perception?
In Buddhism, no. In Bon, yes.
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Good to know, i didnt have idea :)
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tigerneptune wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:49 pm Good to know, i didnt have idea :)
Chapter 69 in the Self-Arisen Vidyā Tantra gives keys to refuting opponents of Dzogchen teachings, but we Buddhists have never really turned them into a courtyard debate formate.
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