Garchen Rinpoche Yangzab Empowerment
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Here is the link to the Empowerment https://drikungseattle.org/events/ for everyone waiting.
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is this a mahayoga or atiyoga empowerment?
also is this a rigpa tsal wang?
also is this a rigpa tsal wang?
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It is anuyoga, and can include the rig pa rtsal wang, at the lama’s discretion.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:21 pm is this a mahayoga or atiyoga empowerment?
also is this a rigpa tsal wang?
The main sadhana itself can be practiced as either a mahayoga or an anuyoga practice, and the root text contains instructions for maha, anu, and ati yoga.
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That's the 4th one after the Mind empowerment right? Until now I still don't know if there's a formal "official" format a rig pai tsal wang should look like or does literally any pointing out count as oneMalcolm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 pmIt is anuyoga, and can include the rig pa rtsal wang, at the lama’s discretion.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:21 pm is this a mahayoga or atiyoga empowerment?
also is this a rigpa tsal wang?
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Not in this particular empowerment, in this one it’s the fifth empowerment.Passing By wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:19 pmThat's the 4th one after the Mind empowerment right? Until now I still don't know if there's a formal "official" format a rig pai tsal wang should look like or does literally any pointing out count as oneMalcolm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 pmIt is anuyoga, and can include the rig pa rtsal wang, at the lama’s discretion.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:21 pm is this a mahayoga or atiyoga empowerment?
also is this a rigpa tsal wang?
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Thank you Malcolm!
Anybody knows if the empowerment given by Garchen Rinpoche will be for Guru, Yidam and Dakini or just the Guru part?
Anybody knows if the empowerment given by Garchen Rinpoche will be for Guru, Yidam and Dakini or just the Guru part?
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Kagyu lamas sometimes give just the guru part.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:05 pm Thank you Malcolm!
Anybody knows if the empowerment given by Garchen Rinpoche will be for Guru, Yidam and Dakini or just the Guru part?
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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The main empowerment always includes the yidam and dakini, since in the Konchog Chidu, the three roots are the outer guru, the inner guru, and the secret guru.heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:56 pmKagyu lamas sometimes give just the guru part.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:05 pm Thank you Malcolm!
Anybody knows if the empowerment given by Garchen Rinpoche will be for Guru, Yidam and Dakini or just the Guru part?
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Can there be other empowerment manuals? I don't read Tibetan so I can't check. For example, a friend insisted that there was separate empowerment for each deity. Also there is this sadhana with only the peaceful Guru, from a Kagyu lama.Malcolm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:04 pmThe main empowerment always includes the yidam and dakini, since in the Konchog Chidu, the three roots are the outer guru, the inner guru, and the secret guru.heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:56 pmKagyu lamas sometimes give just the guru part.lucidaromulus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:05 pm Thank you Malcolm!
Anybody knows if the empowerment given by Garchen Rinpoche will be for Guru, Yidam and Dakini or just the Guru part?
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Both Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche and Tulku Dakpa gave it the way you mention above.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Karma Chakme wrote independent manuals for Drakpo and Simhamukha, but in the root texts, there is only one empowerment which covers the peaceful guru, the wrathful guru, and the guru as dakini.heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:14 pmCan there be other empowerment manuals? I don't read Tibetan so I can't check. For example, a friend insisted that there was separate empowerment for each deity. Also there is this sadhana with only the peaceful Guru, from a Kagyu lama.
Both Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche and Tulku Dakpa gave it the way you mention above.
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Thank you again Malcolm. Learnt alot by reading your replies
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Malcolm,
That’s interesting about Karma Chagme. Is that the source of the initiations used in the Kamtsang tradition here? I’ve always been familiar with the empowerments being individual short initiations for peaceful guru, long life guru, guru drakpo and simhamukha. I had no idea there was a full three roots empowerment. Presumably a torwang?
That’s interesting about Karma Chagme. Is that the source of the initiations used in the Kamtsang tradition here? I’ve always been familiar with the empowerments being individual short initiations for peaceful guru, long life guru, guru drakpo and simhamukha. I had no idea there was a full three roots empowerment. Presumably a torwang?
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Taklung tsetrul rinpoche gave us a full two day empowerment, so that is a wangchen.namoh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:33 pm Malcolm,
That’s interesting about Karma Chagme. Is that the source of the initiations used in the Kamtsang tradition here? I’ve always been familiar with the empowerments being individual short initiations for peaceful guru, long life guru, guru drakpo and simhamukha. I had no idea there was a full three roots empowerment. Presumably a torwang?
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Wow! Very interesting, thank you.
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I apologize for going off topic, but what is the difference between wangchen and wangkur? Or are they the same thing?heart wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:50 amTaklung tsetrul rinpoche gave us a full two day empowerment, so that is a wangchen.namoh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:33 pm Malcolm,
That’s interesting about Karma Chagme. Is that the source of the initiations used in the Kamtsang tradition here? I’ve always been familiar with the empowerments being individual short initiations for peaceful guru, long life guru, guru drakpo and simhamukha. I had no idea there was a full three roots empowerment. Presumably a torwang?
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The same thing.tony_montana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:56 amI apologize for going off topic, but what is the difference between wangchen and wangkur? Or are they the same thing?heart wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:50 amTaklung tsetrul rinpoche gave us a full two day empowerment, so that is a wangchen.namoh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:33 pm Malcolm,
That’s interesting about Karma Chagme. Is that the source of the initiations used in the Kamtsang tradition here? I’ve always been familiar with the empowerments being individual short initiations for peaceful guru, long life guru, guru drakpo and simhamukha. I had no idea there was a full three roots empowerment. Presumably a torwang?
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As someone who has received empowerments from HEGR before I am interested in attending. I wonder if the sadhana will be translated or if its available somewhere so that I can practice it afterwards though.
It is quite impossible to find the Buddha anywhere other than in one's own mind.
A person who is ignorant of this may seek externally,
but how is it possible to find oneself through seeking anywhere other than in oneself?
Someone who seeks their own nature externally is like a fool who, giving a performance in the middle of a crowd, forgets who he is and then seeks everywhere else to find himself.
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Someone who seeks their own nature externally is like a fool who, giving a performance in the middle of a crowd, forgets who he is and then seeks everywhere else to find himself.
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The sadhana for the Konchog Chidu has been translated many times.Javierfv1212 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:40 pm As someone who has received empowerments from HEGR before I am interested in attending. I wonder if the sadhana will be translated or if its available somewhere so that I can practice it afterwards though.
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Is this it?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:43 pmThe sadhana for the Konchog Chidu has been translated many times.Javierfv1212 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:40 pm As someone who has received empowerments from HEGR before I am interested in attending. I wonder if the sadhana will be translated or if its available somewhere so that I can practice it afterwards though.
https://namobuddhapub.org/files/practic ... ebsite.pdf
It is quite impossible to find the Buddha anywhere other than in one's own mind.
A person who is ignorant of this may seek externally,
but how is it possible to find oneself through seeking anywhere other than in oneself?
Someone who seeks their own nature externally is like a fool who, giving a performance in the middle of a crowd, forgets who he is and then seeks everywhere else to find himself.
— Padmasambhava
Visit my site: https://sites.google.com/view/abhayajana/
A person who is ignorant of this may seek externally,
but how is it possible to find oneself through seeking anywhere other than in oneself?
Someone who seeks their own nature externally is like a fool who, giving a performance in the middle of a crowd, forgets who he is and then seeks everywhere else to find himself.
— Padmasambhava
Visit my site: https://sites.google.com/view/abhayajana/
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Yes.Javierfv1212 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:53 pmIs this it?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:43 pmThe sadhana for the Konchog Chidu has been translated many times.Javierfv1212 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:40 pm As someone who has received empowerments from HEGR before I am interested in attending. I wonder if the sadhana will be translated or if its available somewhere so that I can practice it afterwards though.
https://namobuddhapub.org/files/practic ... ebsite.pdf