How do Yogis survive?

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RiceCake
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How do Yogis survive?

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this might be a completely ignorant question but im gonna ask it anyway.

im curious about the ways that solitary yogis have survived in the outdoors. im not looking for any specific type of answer that satisfies a particular bias or anything,
because im definitely willing to believe it could be a mix of mundane/supermundane means, or either/or. i dont know.

im simply asking because i, specifically, havent been able to find much about the yogis lifestyle (which makes sense since alot of them are solitary), but alot of the people on this forum have SO much knowledge on things i didnt think were possible to know about, so im just gonna give it a shot with this question to learn as much as i can.

and yes, im also partly asking because im curious of pursuing that kind of life. im aware its probably hard & non-glamorous, but if its truly for the purpose of awakening, then its worth it imo.
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RiceCake wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:13 pm this might be a completely ignorant question but im gonna ask it anyway.

im curious about the ways that solitary yogis have survived in the outdoors. im not looking for any specific type of answer that satisfies a particular bias or anything,
because im definitely willing to believe it could be a mix of mundane/supermundane means, or either/or. i dont know.

im simply asking because i, specifically, havent been able to find much about the yogis lifestyle (which makes sense since alot of them are solitary), but alot of the people on this forum have SO much knowledge on things i didnt think were possible to know about, so im just gonna give it a shot with this question to learn as much as i can.

and yes, im also partly asking because im curious of pursuing that kind of life. im aware its probably hard & non-glamorous, but if its truly for the purpose of awakening, then its worth it imo.
They are supported by people that have confidence in them. Read "Cave in the snow"

https://tricycle.org/magazine/cave-snow/

I know an other western yogi that is rich so he didn't need anyone to support him.

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By donations, either from jin-dag/patrons or by begging.

Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO. His cabin an hour up the side of a mountain is lent to him by the rich patroness that owns hundreds of acres there. His food and clothes come from a very meager stipend from his family and a number of patrons who he visits once a year. He's been doing this literally for decades. The fact that he is the disciple of Kyabje Jadral Sangay Dorje Rinpoche, a very famous Nyingma Guru, has helped him in developing patrons who have faith in his practice. I rejoice in his renunciation and perseverance.
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pemachophel wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 pm By donations, either from jin-dag/patrons or by begging.

Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO. His cabin an hour up the side of a mountain is lent to him by the rich patroness that owns hundreds of acres there. His food and clothes come from a very meager stipend from his family and a number of patrons who he visits once a year. He's been doing this literally for decades. The fact that he is the disciple of Kyabje Jadral Sangay Dorje Rinpoche, a very famous Nyingma Guru, has helped him in developing patrons who have faith in his practice. I rejoice in his renunciation and perseverance.
Yes, I also rejoice in his accomplishment. He told me he did 3 3-year retreats, 2 in Nepal under really difficult conditions and once in his retreat in Crestone.

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pemachophel wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 pm By donations, either from jin-dag/patrons or by begging.

Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO. His cabin an hour up the side of a mountain is lent to him by the rich patroness that owns hundreds of acres there. His food and clothes come from a very meager stipend from his family and a number of patrons who he visits once a year. He's been doing this literally for decades. The fact that he is the disciple of Kyabje Jadral Sangay Dorje Rinpoche, a very famous Nyingma Guru, has helped him in developing patrons who have faith in his practice. I rejoice in his renunciation and perseverance.
His story about the tiger is possibly my favorite Chatral R. story, and there are many great stories about that man
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PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:53 am
pemachophel wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 pm By donations, either from jin-dag/patrons or by begging.

Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO. His cabin an hour up the side of a mountain is lent to him by the rich patroness that owns hundreds of acres there. His food and clothes come from a very meager stipend from his family and a number of patrons who he visits once a year. He's been doing this literally for decades. The fact that he is the disciple of Kyabje Jadral Sangay Dorje Rinpoche, a very famous Nyingma Guru, has helped him in developing patrons who have faith in his practice. I rejoice in his renunciation and perseverance.
His story about the tiger is possibly my favorite Chatral R. story, and there are many great stories about that man
Please, do tell.
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pemachophel wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 pm Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO...
Pema Chopel, how old is this guy? when did he become Chadral Rinpoche disciple?
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Charlie123 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:57 am
PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:53 am
pemachophel wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 pm By donations, either from jin-dag/patrons or by begging.

Yeshe Dorje is a Nyingma yogi living in Crestone, CO. His cabin an hour up the side of a mountain is lent to him by the rich patroness that owns hundreds of acres there. His food and clothes come from a very meager stipend from his family and a number of patrons who he visits once a year. He's been doing this literally for decades. The fact that he is the disciple of Kyabje Jadral Sangay Dorje Rinpoche, a very famous Nyingma Guru, has helped him in developing patrons who have faith in his practice. I rejoice in his renunciation and perseverance.
His story about the tiger is possibly my favorite Chatral R. story, and there are many great stories about that man
Please, do tell.
It’s on this site somewhere. He used to show up here occasionally. Worth looking for
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PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:46 am
Charlie123 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:57 am
PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:53 am

His story about the tiger is possibly my favorite Chatral R. story, and there are many great stories about that man
Please, do tell.
It’s on this site somewhere. He used to show up here occasionally. Worth looking for
Well, a search of the site does not turn up any stories about Chatral Rinpoche and tigers. I did, however, find an interesting story told by pemachophel about Lama Dawa and a tiger.
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Charlie123 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:23 am
PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:46 am
Charlie123 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:57 am

Please, do tell.
It’s on this site somewhere. He used to show up here occasionally. Worth looking for
Well, a search of the site does not turn up any stories about Chatral Rinpoche and tigers. I did, however, find an interesting story told by pemachophel about Lama Dawa and a tiger.
The search function here isn’t always the easiest to use. But like the truth, he is out there.
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Yeshe Dorje is approximately my own age. So 73, 74. I'm pretty sure he's not older than me. Maybe he's as young as 72. I seem to remember that he and my wife are the same age. I think he became Kyabje Jadral Rinpoche's student in 1971-2. Pretty early on.
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RiceCake wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:13 pm this might be a completely ignorant question but im gonna ask it anyway.

im curious about the ways that solitary yogis have survived in the outdoors. im not looking for any specific type of answer that satisfies a particular bias or anything,
because im definitely willing to believe it could be a mix of mundane/supermundane means, or either/or. i dont know.

im simply asking because i, specifically, havent been able to find much about the yogis lifestyle (which makes sense since alot of them are solitary), but alot of the people on this forum have SO much knowledge on things i didnt think were possible to know about, so im just gonna give it a shot with this question to learn as much as i can.

and yes, im also partly asking because im curious of pursuing that kind of life. im aware its probably hard & non-glamorous, but if its truly for the purpose of awakening, then its worth it imo.
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That, and picnic baskets.
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It's rather simple: In the himalayas, yogis were simply often supported by local monasteries (who sent them picnic baskets), which in turn were supported by local communities (who sent them the ingredients for picnic baskets).
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i find sponsoring yogins is of the most virtuous one can do as lay buddhist.

may i in this life and/or in the next become sponsor of as many yogins i can and promote as many dharma activity as possible.
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Danny wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:34 am That, and picnic baskets.
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Some are capable of quite super human feats such as chülen and tummo. Also the fact that they usually do not eat as much as most of us do since their lives are way less chaotic. But usually donations.
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Danny wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:34 am That, and picnic baskets.
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