Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

frank123
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Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

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Hi, Does receiving direct introduction give one the lung for a specific 6 lokas practice?I read that for one to practice purification of the 6 lokas presented in the precious vase,receiving direct introduction is suffice.is that true?

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frank123 wrote:.is that true?

Thank you
Yes. This is true.
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I have ordered the precious vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the precious vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?
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frank123 wrote:I have ordered the previous vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the previous vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?
Yes, you do need the lung for this.
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Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:I have ordered the previous vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the previous vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?
Yes, you do need the lung for this.
Thanks. ok i will concentrate on the one in the precious vase.
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Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

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frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

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Every retreat
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Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

Thanks
Every retreat
I have been attending webcasts and practicing Guru yoga.Would it be safe to say then i received the lung for the vajrasattva and the purification of the 6 lokas and i can study the retreat on this and practice it?I just want to be sure because i don't consciously remember receiving the lung and i'm not comfortable not knowing.
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frank123 wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

Thanks
Every retreat
I have been attending webcasts and practicing Guru yoga.Would it be safe to say then i received the lung for the vajrasattva and the purification of the 6 lokas and i can study the retreat on this and practice it?I just want to be sure because i don't consciously remember receiving the lung and i'm not comfortable not knowing.
Are you talking about the Longsal Ngondro?
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Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?
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frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?
No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.
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Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?
No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?
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frank123 wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?
No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?

Yes.
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Thank you.
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frank123 wrote:Thank you.

You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.
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Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.

You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.
Including the secret separation of samsara and nirvana? Oral instructions are needed for those, according to The Precious Vase.
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Inge wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.

You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.
Including the secret separation of samsara and nirvana? Oral instructions are needed for those, according to The Precious Vase.
All, the inner and secret rushans are completely described in the PV.
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frank123 wrote:
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?
According to DC: Precious Vase is a *Reserved item, which are materials intended for the Dzogchen Community. In order to purchase this item one must be a current member of the Dzogchen Community, and must have received Transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

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Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.

You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.
Cheers :thumbsup:
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T. Chokyi wrote:
frank123 wrote:
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?
According to DC: Precious Vase is a *Reserved item, which are materials intended for the Dzogchen Community. In order to purchase this item one must be a current member of the Dzogchen Community, and must have received Transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

:smile:
Yes i am aware of this.
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