SilenceMonkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:59 pm
LastLegend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:49 pm
So it’s not a valid criticism from East to West? I judge because I study my mind and I can sense through engaging that we are entangled together...as far as karma goes.
I think you’re just being judgemental, to be honest. You’re playing Chan master with strangers, people who don’t even practice in your tradition.
Every tradition has their own methods of practice. Some traditions value study more than you do personally. Do you have the right to say an entire tradition is wrong?
Think what you like...it’s all in Sutras. The one I quoted the other day when Mahavairocana describes his realization in Mahavairocana Sutras.
Also I remembered you argued with me the definition of consciousness (versus perceptions) yet Sujato quoted, “For one knows tastes through tongue.”
I also quoted... “You should make your own mind & body uncluttered and serene, unentangled in any objects whatsoever. Sit straight, rightly aware, and fine-tune your breath so it is well adjusted. Examine your mind to see it as neither inside nor outside nor in between. Watch it calmly, carefully and objectively; when you master this, you clearly see that the mind's consciousness moves in a flow, like a water-current or like heat waves rising without end.
When you have seen this consciousness, you find it is neither out nor in: without hurry, objectively & calmly observe it. When you master this, then melt and flux over and over, empty yet solid, profoundly stable, and then the flowing consciousness will disappear.
Those who get this consciousness to disappear will then destroy the obstructing confusions of the Bodhisattvas of the ten stages. Once this consciousness is gone, then the mind is open and still, quiet, serene and calm, perfectly pure, and enormously stable.”
That’s from a Chan Patriarch Daman. Just to make point that consciousness needs to be transcended.
https://terebess.hu/zen/daman.html
It’s eye blinking.