Nirvāna Sutra Mantra and Pacifist Verse

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Nirvāna Sutra Mantra and Pacifist Verse

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Today I at last got the BDK Nirvāna Sutra.

Right off I have two questions on the Mantra on page 24 and want to point out the Verse on page 329.

1st am I right in thinking the sutra as saying that people who misuse the dharma do so out of fear and to use a pacification mantra would turn their minds around.... as well as overcome scary things for virtuous practioners?

2nd how is that mantra pronounced correctly? I am unsure of employing those accent marks.

AND for gun crazy Americans... that verse is quite the bumper sticker!

Be well. Leo


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Hodge, Stephen. "The Mahāyāna Mahāparinirvāṇa-Sūtra: The Text and Its Transmission." Corrected and revised version of a paper presented in July 2010 at the Second International Workshop on the Mahāparinirvāṇa-sūtra held at Munich University, 2012. https://www.buddhismuskunde.uni-hambur ... -mpns.pdf

Page, Tony. "Textual History of the Mahāyāna-Mahāparinirvāṇa-Sūtra by Stephen Hodge." Nirvana Sutra: Appreciation of the "Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra." Updated August 2019. http://www.nirvanasutra.net/historicalbackground.htm.

Hodge, Stephen. "On the Eschatology of the Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra and Related Matters." Lecture delivered on the Tibetan version of the Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra at the University of London, SOAS, Spring 2006. http://www.shabkar.org/download/pdf/On_ ... atters.pdf
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Leo Rivers wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:23 am Today I at last got the BDK Nirvāna Sutra.

Right off I have two questions on the Mantra on page 24 and want to point out the Verse on page 329.

1st am I right in thinking the sutra as saying that people who misuse the dharma do so out of fear and to use a pacification mantra would turn their minds around.... as well as overcome scary things for virtuous practioners?

2nd how is that mantra pronounced correctly? I am unsure of employing those accent marks.

AND for gun crazy Americans... that verse is quite the bumper sticker!

Be well. Leo
I'm studying the sūtra too. Have been going through for a few months. If you have anything you'd like to discuss about it, please feel free to post and maybe we can develop a greater dialogue about it.

Māra joins the Buddha's team at the end of the day and offers his mantra to eliminate fear and make beings protect Dharma teachers, the Dharma, and the Mahāyāna.

Copy and paste the mantra (ṭarki ṭaṭara ṭarki lohare mahālohare āra cara tara svāhā) into this text to speech engine, it will give you the pronunciation (it does not do ṭṭ so I changed ṭaṭṭara to ṭaṭara and it worked):
https://enjoylearningsanskrit.com/sansk ... to-speech/

The Ṭ is essentially pronounced like a regular T but you put the tongue further back behind the palate. Ā is pronounced for two counts of an A. C is pronounced like English "ch." E is pronounced like "ay."

On the verse on 329, the point of the verse there, and the following verses, is that the Buddha gives teachings in accord with beings needs (note that Mañjuśrī points out that the verse, at core, is not true—some beings, in fact, do not fear weapons). Teachings with "further meanings" are those which are only true in certain circumstances—they are only given to encourage a yearning for the Dharma in disciples as skilful means. Teachings with "no further meanings" (see pp 334-5) are those about permanence, and joy, i.e. Buddha nature/Great Nirvāṇa. Since Nirvāṇa can only be fully comprehended by a Buddha, beings can treat the sūtra with reverence as a conventional method of cultivation (e.g. by copying, teaching, reciting it, etc.).
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Thanks
That link is appreciated, too.
Each of these larger sutras is like it's own world.
I know some Chinese Buddhists sees the Mahāparinirvāṇa and the Lotus Sūtras as a suite but these two are also ranked differently as well.
That is interesting too. :buddha1:
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