Spirit possession and/or harrassment

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Spirit possession and/or harrassment

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I came across this episode in the book "A Saint in Seattle" where the late Dezheng Rinpoche recognized that a girl was possessed and harrassed by a spirit. My questions are:

(a) How do we recognize that a person is possessed and/or harrassed by spirits and not mental problem (like hallucination)?

(b) What should or can we do to ward off or chase off these spirits?
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Jotham wrote:I came across this episode in the book "A Saint in Seattle" where the late Dezheng Rinpoche recognized that a girl was possessed and harrassed by a spirit. My questions are:

(a) How do we recognize that a person is possessed and/or harrassed by spirits and not mental problem (like hallucination)?

(b) What should or can we do to ward off or chase off these spirits?
As for (a), (a) can be both. People who have mental illness are more liable to spirit attacks; people suffering from spirit attacks are more liable to have mental illness as a result.

Second, for ordinary people, Tibetan astrology is the best method for recognizing what type of spirit and the required rite for driving it off.

One simple thing one can do is burn guggulu in one's house. One can do a so called "gegs tor" rite usually found in the beginning of a sadhana, especially nyingma sadhanas.

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From the POV of chod, the best way to ward off attacks from spirits is to remain free from hope and fear. If that's not possible, there are many practices in Tibetan Buddhism for protecting against and alleviating attacks by spirits, including certain mantra and yidam practices, various charms and yantra, ka-tor and geg-tor offerings, erecting a vajra gur or tent, making other offerings to potentially disturbing spirits to repay karmic debts, such as chod and sur, and, if push comes to shove, full-scale wrathful liberation practices. "Demonology" is a very vast and well-developed part of Tibetan Buddhism and covers all aspects of prevention, diagnosis, and treatment.
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Another question one might ask is, "is that just a load of garbage?"
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Many ordinary people and practitioners (beginner to advanced) are bothered by or house or are drained or semi possessed by the numerous sub-categories of the eight classes for various reasons. Some cases of: mental illness, addictions, certain views and habits, lack of will or alertness/mindfulness, nervousness etc. can be two way partners to them as Namdrol said. They will be discovered as they have been elsewhere in the numerous worlds in the universe where technology is light years ahead. Meanwhile dismissing them is an act of ignorance at one's own risk.
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PadmaVonSamba wrote:Another question one might ask is, "is that just a load of garbage?"
You just said that because you're possessed. :D
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pemachophel wrote:From the POV of chod, the best way to ward off attacks from spirits is to remain free from hope and fear..
Yes and no -- virtually all illnesses have a accompanying demonic component.
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Namdrol wrote:
pemachophel wrote:From the POV of chod, the best way to ward off attacks from spirits is to remain free from hope and fear..
Yes and no -- virtually all illnesses have a accompanying demonic component.
srsly?
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gnegirl wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
pemachophel wrote:From the POV of chod, the best way to ward off attacks from spirits is to remain free from hope and fear..
Yes and no -- virtually all illnesses have a accompanying demonic component.
srsly?

Seriously.
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gnegirl wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
pemachophel wrote:From the POV of chod, the best way to ward off attacks from spirits is to remain free from hope and fear..
Yes and no -- virtually all illnesses have a accompanying demonic component.
srsly?
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PadmaVonSamba wrote:Another question one might ask is, "is that just a load of garbage?"

Gee you took the words right out of my..... OMG you have possessed me! AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
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I lack attention and my will power is quite weak. I am usually not able to sustain interest in worldly affairs - job, study etc.

Am I being possessed by a spirit?
Will reciting the Amitabha name ward off the spirits?

Thank you.
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himalayanspirit wrote:I lack attention and my will power is quite weak. I am usually not able to sustain interest in worldly affairs - job, study etc.

Am I being possessed by a spirit?
Will reciting the Amitabha name ward off the spirits?

Thank you.
You should go to a Tibetan astrologer or have a divination done for example, by Lama Dawa.

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Lama Dawa has suspended divination's per his website except in emergencies.


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uslic001 wrote:Lama Dawa has suspended divination's per his website except in emergencies.


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Good to know. Thanks.
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See the thread on Ten-zhuk for Lama Dawa.
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On other thread where i asked the same, i learnt that Surangama Sutra (or the surangama Mantra... i am confused) scares spirits. So read it for someone who is being harassed by spirits. Or you can play it from youtube i suppose!
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