Do any ancient Tibetan Buddhist texts give practical advice?

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say relatively go with common sense and people who live that by example regardless of their labels in your judgemental eyes and forget the western/Christian idea of religion's scope and then ultimately on a higher level see all as pure.
Spirituality instead of religion.
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username wrote: You reversed 180 degrees everything I meant. Interesting, that seems to be the core of the issue here.
Well, it wasn't my intention to misinterpret you. If you feel like elaborating a bit on what you wrote previously, then I might see what you intended more clearly.

But misinterpretation goes both ways. You keep mentioning Christian ideas when you talk to me, but I have no interest in or attachment to any Christian ideas whatsoever.
adinatha wrote:LOL Dharma is not about practical advice.
Never? That seems like an extreme viewpoint. But yes, I understand that Buddhism is all about renunciation. I have no problem with Buddhism and I really love Vajrayana. I was just interested in different ways to help others before I have deep knowledge and realization.
adinatha wrote:At the same time, these meditations are fundamentally transforming. The right and good naturally flows out of someone's actions when these methods are used. Dharma is like the heart of the law.
Yes, that was my opinion before I wrote this, but I doubted it, since I am just a beginner. Another thing to consider is that what we call "Tibetan Buddhism" in the west is generally those practices that were only taught to monks and yogis in the past. We are very fortunate to have these opportunities, but at the same time, I think that we should maintain the desire to benefit other beings in practical ways and not to turn ourselves mentally into "fantasy monks" who view themselves as being fundamentally separate from the ordinary world of daily life.
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Westerners can get really far by doing periodic one to four week retreats and then have a once or twice a day practice routine.
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Luke, you don't read carefully plus reversed my meanings where others saw it clearly, also I said "forget the western/Christian idea of religion's scope" as your OP point is about religious vs. practical daily advice. Nothing more to add.
Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes
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The sort of practical advice you are looking for depends crucially on your understanding and capacity and for that reason should come from a teacher who knows you well and not from a thousand year old text.
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Jinzang wrote:The sort of practical advice you are looking for depends crucially on your understanding and capacity and for that reason should come from a teacher who knows you well and not from a thousand year old text.
Yes, you are probably right. The thing is that I only see my lama about twice a year, so I guess I was just looking for ways to supplement his teachings. But I suppose I could also talk to him on the phone occasionally to keep myself on the right track.

In the meantime, reading HHDL's commentaries on ancient texts seems like a safe way to get a bit of wisdom.

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Although one would not exactly classify it as an 'ancient text' but rather a contemporary one, nevertheless the 'Magical Nectar' - Advice for a disciple by the late H.H.Dudjom Rinpoche, is a recommendable short text - full of practical advice and fresh inspiration.

For example, an excerpt from this text reads:

"Do not consort with narrow-minded people, nor place your trust in new and untried companions. Make friends with honest people who are intelligent and prudent, and have a sense of propriety and courtesy. Don't keep company with bad people who care nothing about karma, those who lie and cheat and steal. Distance yourself, but do it skillfully. Do not rely on people who say sweet things to your face and do the reverse behind your back."

"As for yourself, be constant amid the ebb and flow of happiness and suffering. Be friendly and even with others. Unguarded, intemperate chatter will put you in their power; excessive silence may leave them unclear as to what you mean. Keep a middle course: don't swagger with self-confidence, but don't be a doormat either. Don't run after gossip without examining the truth of it. People who know how to keep their mouth shut are rare. So don't chatter about your wishes and intentions - keep them to yourself. And whether you are speaking to an enemy, an acquaintance, or a friend, never break a confidence."
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I didnt read all the posts, just 2-3 and the first post.

I think that the OP wants something like Tibetan precepts. I think that precepts are usually vert practice. Is there anything like tibetan buddhist precepts??


EDIT:

I found this link (see below), it may be useful. Note that the 1st part are Amitabha vows but then you will find tibetan precepts.

http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/4 ... vows.shtml
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Magical Nectar: Advice for a Disciple

Namo!
Gracious Lord of all the Buddha Families,
The nature and embodiment of every refuge,
To you, the Lotus-Born, my jeweled crown, I bow in homage!

If I were to instruct others in the excellent way, who on earth would
listen? For I am wholly without discrimination and cannot be a guide
even for myself! Still, you see me with pure vision and you did ask.
So rather than being a disappointment, I will say a few things as they
come to mind.

All success, great and small, whether in spiritual or temporal
affairs, derives from your stock of merit. So never neglect even the
slightest positive deed. Just do it. In the same way, don't dismiss
your little faults as unimportant; just restrain yourself! Make an
effort to accumulate merit: make offerings and give in charity. Strive
with a good heart to do everything that benefits others. Follow in the
footsteps of the wise and examine finely everything you do. Do not be
the slave of unexamined fashions. Be sparing with your words. Be
thoughtful rather, and examine situations carefully. For the roots of
discrimination must be nourished: the desire to do all that should be
done and to abandon all that should be abandoned.

Do not criticize the wise or be sarcastic about them. Rid yourself
completely of every feeling of jealous rivalry. Do not despise the
ignorant, turning away from them with haughty arrogance. Give up your
pride. Give up your self-importance. All this is essential. Understand
that you owe your life to the kindness of your parents. Therefore do
not grieve them but fulfill their wishes. Show courtesy and
consideration to all who depend on you. Instill in them a sense of
goodness and instruct them in the practice of virtue and the avoidance
of evil. Be patient with their little shortcomings and restrain your
bad temper, remembering that it only takes the tiniest thing to ruin a
good situation.

Do not consort with narrow-minded people, nor place your trust in new
and untried companions. Make friends with honest people who are
intelligent and prudent and have a sense of propriety and courtesy.
Don't keep company with bad people, who care nothing about karma, who
lie and cheat and steal. Distance yourself, but do it skillfully. Do
not rely on people who say sweet things to your face and do the
reverse behind your back.

As for yourself, be constant amid the ebb and flow of happiness and
suffering. Be friendly and even with others. Unguarded, intemperate
chatter will put you in their power; excessive silence may leave them
unclear as to what you mean. So keep a middle course: don't swagger
with self-confidence, but don't be a doormat either. Don't run after
gossip without examining the truth of it. People who know how to keep
their mouths shut are rare. So don't chatter about your wishes and
intentions; keep them to yourself. And whether you are speaking to an
enemy, an acquaintance or a friend, never break a confidence.

Be welcoming with people, and smile and talk pleasantly. And keep to
your position. Be respectful towards your superiors, even when things
do not go well for them. Don't scorn them. At the same time, don't bow
and scrape before the vulgar, even when they are proud and full of
themselves.

Be skillful in not making promises that you know you cannot keep. By
the same token, honor the promises you have made, and never dismiss
them as unimportant. Do not be depressed by misfortune and the failure
to get what you want. Instead be careful to see where your real profit
and loss lie.

All such worldly conduct, adopted with proper discrimination, will
result in this life's fortune and prosperity and, so it is said, a
speedy passage to the divine realms.

If, however, you want to get out of samsara completely, here is some
advice that should help you on your way to liberation.

If you have no contentment, you are poor no matter how much money you
have. So decide that you have enough, and rid yourself of yearning and
attachment. It's a rare person indeed who knows that wealth is passing
and unstable and who can therefore practice perfect generosity. For
even those who do practice it, generosity is often soiled by the three
impurities and is wasted, like good food mixed with poison.

Apart from the beings agonizing in hell, there is no one in samsara
who does not cherish life. Now, of the seven excellencies of the
higher realms, longevity is a karmic effect similar to its cause.
Therefore, if you want to live long protect the lives of others;
concentrate on doing this!

Cultivate faith and devotion to the Three Jewels and to your teacher!
Strive in the ten virtues and combine clear intelligence with
extensive learning. And nurture a sense of personal integrity and
propriety with regard to others. With these seven sublime riches you
will always be happy!

To gain peace and happiness for oneself is the hinayana approach of
the Shravakas and Pratyekabuddhas. The altruism of bodhichitta is the
path of beings of great potential. Therefore train yourself in the
deeds of bodhisattvas, and do this on a grand scale! Shoulder the
responsibility of freeing all beings from samsara. Of all the eighty-
four thousand sections of the Buddha's teachings, there is nothing
more profound than bodhichitta. Therefore make every effort on the
path, uniting absolute and relative bodhichitta, which distills the
essence of all the sutras and the tantras. The subduing of one's own
mind is the root of dharma. When the mind is controlled, defilements
naturally subside.

Do not allow yourself to become impervious and blasé with regard to
the dharma; do not lead yourself astray. Let the profound dharma sink
into your mind. Now that you have obtained this excellent life, so
hard to find, now that you have the freedom to practice the teachings,
don't waste your time. Strive to accomplish the supreme, unchanging
goal. For life is passing, and there is no certainty about the time of
death. Even if you are to die tomorrow, you should have confidence and
be without regret.

Therefore, cultivate a real devotion for your root teacher, and love
your vajra kindred, cultivating pure perception in their regard.
Fortunate are those disciples who at all times keep their samaya and
vows as dearly as their lives. They gain accomplishment quickly.

Ignorance, the five poisons, doubt and dualistic clinging are the
roots of samsara, and the sufferings of the three realms. To this
there is one antidote that removes or "liberates" everything in a
single stroke. It is spontaneous wisdom, the primal wisdom of
awareness. Be confident, therefore, in the generation stage:
appearances, sounds and thoughts are but the primordial display of
deity, mantra and primal wisdom. Then settle in the
"subsequent" (anuyoga) path of the three specific perceptions, the
perfection stage, the state of bliss and emptiness.

Take your stand on the ultimate practice of the Heart Essence—samsara
and nirvana are the display of awareness. Without distraction, without
meditation, in a state of natural relaxation, constantly remain in the
pure, all-penetrating nakedness of ultimate reality.

Dudjom Rinpoche
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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^Great stuff, Greg! Thanks for posting it.
Nosta wrote:I didnt read all the posts, just 2-3 and the first post.

I think that the OP wants something like Tibetan precepts. I think that precepts are usually vert practice. Is there anything like tibetan buddhist precepts??
Thanks for trying to help, but no, I wasn't specifically looking for precepts.
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