Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
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Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
Hi all,
So Bob Thurman and Andrew Holecek did a course a while back about Pure Land Buddhism in the Tibetan tradition, as well as the East Asian Traditin entitled "Death & the Art of Dying:The Pure Lands Introduction".
Link: https://thusmenla.org/p/pure-lands-introduction-archive
Does anyone have any information regarding this course? Price = 108$ for recordings from three (3) days and some study material. Seems pretty steep. Thinking whether it's worth it or not.
Thanks in advance,
Brunelleschi
So Bob Thurman and Andrew Holecek did a course a while back about Pure Land Buddhism in the Tibetan tradition, as well as the East Asian Traditin entitled "Death & the Art of Dying:The Pure Lands Introduction".
Link: https://thusmenla.org/p/pure-lands-introduction-archive
Does anyone have any information regarding this course? Price = 108$ for recordings from three (3) days and some study material. Seems pretty steep. Thinking whether it's worth it or not.
Thanks in advance,
Brunelleschi
Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
You are better off buying the Halkias book on Pure land practice in Tibet.Brunelleschi wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:52 am Hi all,
So Bob Thurman and Andrew Holecek did a course a while back about Pure Land Buddhism in the Tibetan tradition, as well as the East Asian Traditin entitled "Death & the Art of Dying:The Pure Lands Introduction".
Link: https://thusmenla.org/p/pure-lands-introduction-archive
Does anyone have any information regarding this course? Price = 108$ for recordings from three (3) days and some study material. Seems pretty steep. Thinking whether it's worth it or not.
Thanks in advance,
Brunelleschi
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Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
Thanks Malcolm, I'll look into it.Malcolm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:36 amYou are better off buying the Halkias book on Pure land practice in Tibet.Brunelleschi wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:52 am Hi all,
So Bob Thurman and Andrew Holecek did a course a while back about Pure Land Buddhism in the Tibetan tradition, as well as the East Asian Traditin entitled "Death & the Art of Dying:The Pure Lands Introduction".
Link: https://thusmenla.org/p/pure-lands-introduction-archive
Does anyone have any information regarding this course? Price = 108$ for recordings from three (3) days and some study material. Seems pretty steep. Thinking whether it's worth it or not.
Thanks in advance,
Brunelleschi
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Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
The whole of Pure Land Buddhism is based on Amitabha’s 48 Vows.
Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
There is no "pure land" Buddhism per se, in Tibetan Buddhism, in the sense one observes it in Sino-Japanese Buddhism. That does not mean that birth in pure buddhafields is of no concern in Tibetan Buddhism, but this is handled with aspirations and phowa.Konchog Thogme Jampa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:03 pm The whole of Pure Land Buddhism is based on Amitabha’s 48 Vows.
One does not read Tibetan masters making sustained arguments about the meaning of the 48 vows and so on. The Halkias book is pretty comprehensive.
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The 48 Vows are vital at the Common Mahayana Pure Land level. Practices like Phowa on Vajrayana isn’t included so I suppose the 48 Vows isn’t the same in terms of importance from that perspective.
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Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
Additionally there are dharanis that guarantee rebirth in Sukhavati, even if one has committed the five acts of immediate retribution etc.Konchog Thogme Jampa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:20 pm Practices like Phowa on Vajrayana isn’t included so I suppose the 48 Vows isn’t the same in terms of importance from that perspective.
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Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
Yes that’s rightLosal Samten wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:46 pmAdditionally there are dharanis that guarantee rebirth in Sukhavati, even if one has committed the five acts of immediate retribution etc.Konchog Thogme Jampa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:20 pm Practices like Phowa on Vajrayana isn’t included so I suppose the 48 Vows isn’t the same in terms of importance from that perspective.
Amitabha has strong connections
Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
Charles B Jones, in his book Pure Land: History, Traditions, and Practices, argues pretty convincingly that what is understood as Pure Land Buddhism never existed anywhere other than the Sino-Japanese tradition.Konchog Thogme Jampa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:20 pm The 48 Vows are vital at the Common Mahayana Pure Land level. Practices like Phowa on Vajrayana isn’t included so I suppose the 48 Vows isn’t the same in terms of importance from that perspective.
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Re: Seeking feedback/review: Pure Land Buddhism from a Tibetan Buddhist perspective
That’s interesting
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