How does mantra purify past negative karma?

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How does mantra purify past negative karma?
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Danny wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:00 pmContemplation
I should say that a moment of contemplation purifies eons of negative karma, mantrikas might say otherwise.
And there’s countless written pages on the benefits of mantras.
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It can be like coming to a fork in the road and choosing the right path.
Or like a vigorous seed that outcompetes the noxious weeds.
Or like a strong wind blowing away a cloud, someone yelling "hey you!" to wake you from a nightmare.
Or like a medicine, a thorn removed, a life preserver, a treasure that puts an end to your poverty.
Ordinary things have benefits like this, yet a mantra is not an ordinary thing.

If a mantra is paired with bodhicitta, your wish to attain buddhahood in order to save all sentient beings, then the sky's the limit.
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Padmist wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:32 pm How does mantra purify past negative karma?
Which mantra?
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Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:15 am
Padmist wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:32 pm How does mantra purify past negative karma?
Which mantra?
Presumably Vajrasattva.
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Danny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:38 am
Danny wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:00 pmContemplation
I should say that a moment of contemplation purifies eons of negative karma, mantrikas might say otherwise.
And there’s countless written pages on the benefits of mantras.
contemplation:
1 the act of thinking deeply about something
2 the act of looking at something in a calm and careful way

(oxford dictionary)

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Schrödinger’s Yidam wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:30 am Presumably Vajrasattva.
I would have guessed "Om Mani Padme Hum".
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Padmist wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:32 pm How does mantra purify past negative karma?
It's magic. :smile:

All purification using methods rely on the four powers.

https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Four_powers

Here is a nice teaching by Mingyur Rinpoche how to apply this in Vajrasattva practice.

https://learning.tergar.org/wp-content/ ... s-copy.pdf

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Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:15 am
Padmist wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:32 pm How does mantra purify past negative karma?
Which mantra?
This one

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Karma is dependent on concepts. Usually concepts are words. Mantras are words not concepts. But the intention behind them is to purify obscurations. Based on this intention and simply the sound, the purification occurs as the conceptual mind is silenced and the original Buddha nature becomes apparent.
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Padmist wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:16 am
Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:15 am
Padmist wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:32 pm How does mantra purify past negative karma?
Which mantra?
This one
One is called the "door mantra." The idea is that anyone who walks under it will have a lot of karma purified.

The second one is called the Six Spaces of Samantabhadra and comes from the 17 Dzogchen Tantras. It is the form of the six buddhas of the six realms in the form of syllables. Thus, seeing it creates a positive cause for meeting the path in this life or another.
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Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:41 pm
Padmist wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:16 am
Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:15 am

Which mantra?
This one
One is called the "door mantra." The idea is that anyone who walks under it will have a lot of karma purified.

The second one is called the Six Spaces of Samantabhadra and comes from the 17 Dzogchen Tantras. It is the form of the six buddhas of the six realms in the form of syllables. Thus, seeing it creates a positive cause for meeting the path in this life or another.
That's the what and the when not the how.
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Crazywisdom wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:49 pm
Malcolm wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:41 pm
Padmist wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:16 am

This one
One is called the "door mantra." The idea is that anyone who walks under it will have a lot of karma purified.

The second one is called the Six Spaces of Samantabhadra and comes from the 17 Dzogchen Tantras. It is the form of the six buddhas of the six realms in the form of syllables. Thus, seeing it creates a positive cause for meeting the path in this life or another.
That's the what and the when not the how.
From the point of view of seeing, it is the how. You look at it, that's enough.
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Conversely, what is it that causes past negative karma to linger? And for how long? And at what intensity? It’s not anything that’s outside of your mind. Ask that question first.

Then, the second question might better be, “why does reciting a mantra effect past negative karma, but reciting the chorus from, say, ‘Yellow Submarine’ has no effect? What’s different, what’s so special about a mantra?”

The word ‘purify’ is a bit misleading, I think.
I’ve never really liked it because it’s dualistic.
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Through the power of the Dharmadhatu
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Why do mantras have the power to purify past negative karma?
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Padmist wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:40 am Why do mantras have the power to purify past negative karma?
Such questions are completely in vain, I believe.

Try mantra for two weeks. See, IF it works. Then come back and tell us WHY it works. :)

It does not work for everybody Some just dislike the practice and prefer something else. There are tons of different meditation practices.
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The mantra is like a guide on your way. If you trust this guide and let him guide you, you may find yourself on a more beautiful travel.

The mantra is like a medicine. If you trust the medicine and let it work deeply in you, it will cleanse you of the three poisons and reveal your nature.

The mantra is like a sun. If you open your window (have faith) and expose yourself to it, the garden of your heart will flourish.

The mantra is like a crystal. By contemplating it it will introduce you to your own clarity.

The mantra is your own Buddha nature calling you home. By trusting it you will find protection and refuge.

Trust the mantra, have faith, recite it with Boddicitta and you will see how it can work for you.

The resonance of the mantra will lift you.

We have much wood of ignorance. The mantra can burn it all and give you light and warmth.

Trust it, apply the teaching with a good heart and you will see the effect of its medicine.
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Many years ago, a teacher explained the root of mantras. These days hundreds of mantras out there, but in reality,
4 or 5 seed sounds. For me, only 3.
It’s why I say mantrikas say differently, it’s a collection of various functions. And those functions are important to where one is is at.

There is a certain point where one stops with mantras.

All the best.
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