How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
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How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
Hello Dharma Wheel,
How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
I've read 100,000 and 1,000,000. I have also read that 100,000 = 600,000 Vajrasattva short mantra and that even tho it has equivalence the long mantra is still more indicated.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Thank you
How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
I've read 100,000 and 1,000,000. I have also read that 100,000 = 600,000 Vajrasattva short mantra and that even tho it has equivalence the long mantra is still more indicated.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Thank you
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
Ask your teacher.Tsering Gyurme wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:04 pm Hello Dharma Wheel,
How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
I've read 100,000 and 1,000,000. I have also read that 100,000 = 600,000 Vajrasattva short mantra and that even tho it has equivalence the long mantra is still more indicated.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Thank you
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
The first time I did it I did 100.000 long mantras and also 600.000 short mantras. But as Malcolm said, ask your teacher.Tsering Gyurme wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:04 pm Hello Dharma Wheel,
How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
I've read 100,000 and 1,000,000. I have also read that 100,000 = 600,000 Vajrasattva short mantra and that even tho it has equivalence the long mantra is still more indicated.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Thank you
/magnus
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
In "The Torch of Certainty" by Kongtrul it's 111.111 long plus 666.666 short. However my very conservative and traditional teacher cut down on the short for us--a lot.
So yes, ask your teacher.
So yes, ask your teacher.
1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
I followed the "The Torch of Certainty". The only ngondro book available at the time.Schrödinger’s Yidam wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 4:37 pm In "The Torch of Certainty" by Kongtrul it's 111.111 long plus 666.666 short. However my very conservative and traditional teacher cut down on the short for us--a lot.
So yes, ask your teacher.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
Not a ngondro, Siksa-samuccaya of Shantideva, which is the classical Indian treatise.
In the "purification" 8th chapter there is an advice on 100 syllable mantra of Vajrasattva - 8000 to purify a fault. And there are some additional instructions - not only a Vajrasattva, a pack of methods according to Sutrayana and Vajrayana, signs of accomplishment...
In the "purification" 8th chapter there is an advice on 100 syllable mantra of Vajrasattva - 8000 to purify a fault. And there are some additional instructions - not only a Vajrasattva, a pack of methods according to Sutrayana and Vajrayana, signs of accomplishment...
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
Yes, it would depend upon what your teacher says, but most accumulations are 100,000 and this
is actually performed as 111,000 to account for mistakes.
Shaun
is actually performed as 111,000 to account for mistakes.
Shaun
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
No, what is discussed in the Compendium of Training in the 100 syllable mantras of the tathāgatas, which also exists as an extract, de bzhin gshegs pa'i snying po yi ge brgya pa'i bsrung ba dang sdig pa bshags pa'i cho ga, Toh. 3941.Volan wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:29 pm Not a ngondro, Siksa-samuccaya of Shantideva, which is the classical Indian treatise.
In the "purification" 8th chapter there is an advice on 100 syllable mantra of Vajrasattva - 8000 to purify a fault. And there are some additional instructions - not only a Vajrasattva, a pack of methods according to Sutrayana and Vajrayana, signs of accomplishment...
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Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
A little more than that, at least as I was taught.
111,111 -- counting each mala (of 108 or 111) as 100. So you're kind of doubling up on accounting for mistakes.
Re: How many Vajrasattva 100-Syllable mantra is required for Ngondro?
Yes, precisely.Jangchup Donden wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:35 amA little more than that, at least as I was taught.
111,111 -- counting each mala (of 108 or 111) as 100. So you're kind of doubling up on accounting for mistakes.
Shaun