Searching for detailed description on mind defilements

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penalvad_uba
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Searching for detailed description on mind defilements

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Hi dears,

Afaik there are 3 major:

- Aversion (Or anger, often linked with throath chakra as central manifestation.

- Attachment (Desire or Passion or Lust, linked to the Anahata or Heart chakra).

- Ignorance (Solar/Navel chakra).

There is, also, Pride and Envy that are, afaik, a rigid set of aspects of the other three that separate people or make it believe in separated aspects and blames.

Now.
Iam searching teachings on more detailed aspects of buddhist psycology. Such the mixing of such elementar defilements and its subtle and subtle-most body manifestations.
Iam focusing Nyingmapa teachings or Longchenpa.

Thank you for your attention and time.
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A clear presentation of how the mind functions, this text classifies basic mental events and provides precise instructions on how to recognize and transform mental and emotional patterns.
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If you want a simple example,
A few things really.

Eyes and the breath, and hearing.
Pretty much it.
Unless of course one wants to be a dharmic forensic accountant, then there’s massive collections of explanations and categories and minutia of things to explore.

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penalvad_uba wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:47 pm Afaik there are 3 major:
- Aversion (Or anger, often linked with throath chakra as central manifestation.
- Attachment (Desire or Passion or Lust, linked to the Anahata or Heart chakra).
- Ignorance (Solar/Navel chakra).
According to the Asanga`s system, there are 51 mental factors (caitasika) and they include six root defilements (mula klesha) and twenty minor defilements (upaklesha).

Six root defilements: craving, repugnance, pride, ignorance, scepticism and false views.
All the other impure mental activities from the list of 51 are the minor defilements.
penalvad_uba wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:47 pm Iam searching teachings on more detailed aspects of buddhist psycology. Such the mixing of such elementar defilements and its subtle and subtle-most body manifestations.
This can be represented in many ways, for example, Dependent origination with its twelve links:
ignorance is the first factor, and defilements belong to the second - formations (samskara).

Asanga, Abhidharmasamuccaya: The Compendium of the Higher Teaching (Philosophy), translated by Walpola Rahula, Sara Boin-Webb, Asian Humanities Press, 2001:
What is the function of the formations? They distribute (vibhajanti) beings in the different destinies of existence (gatishu)...
Through the understanding of these twelve links you will gain a fundamental view: how these mental states are creating the world and the bodily (or mind only in the formless) existence - samsara - and how through abandoning these mental states one moves towards nirvana.

Asanga, Abhidharmasamuccaya: The Compendium of the Higher Teaching (Philosophy), translated by Walpola Rahula, Sara Boin-Webb, Asian Humanities Press, 2001:
The realm of the completely pure world is not included in the Truth of suffering, and is not created bу the power of actions and defilements, and neither is it dominated bу actions and defilements. It is engendered only bу the great aspiration which is directed bу supremacy over the roots favorable to purification . The place of its birth is inconceivable. It is understood only bу the Buddha. It is not in the realm of recollection of those who meditate, let alone ordinary thinkers.
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Volan wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:55 pm
The realm of the completely pure world is not included in the Truth of suffering, and is not created bу the power of actions and defilements, and neither is it dominated bу actions and defilements. It is engendered only bу the great aspiration which is directed bу supremacy over the roots favorable to purification . The place of its birth is inconceivable. It is understood only bу the Buddha. It is not in the realm of recollection of those who meditate, let alone ordinary thinkers.
I would like to gain insight into the sadhanas of Mantrayana and the relations with Swift Path of Transference. Why ?
When you practice Dharma, people frequently acquire a purist view of you, meaning they quite see you as a monk, thinking you gonna not drink, have relation, sons, walk with past criminal people, beggar and whores.
Today Tantrayanas (not only the supposed vajra yogis yoginis) tends to think we live in Pure Land already, but as the above text says, we are not but sentient beings. So i think they will or be reborn in a blank god realm or, sincerly, animal realm by being indulgent and having purist view.
To understand the trash and the fake pure and help, doing no harm, is related to understanding of Vajrayana path.
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