Ability to Control the Weather

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[Mod note: This quote was taken from this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26392#p404144 ]

Malcolm wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:12 am ...Kunzang Dechen Lingpa had this ability. Ngagpa Rinpoche was able to stop monsoon rains, droughts, and so on.
are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
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yagmort wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:34 pm [Mod note: This quote was taken from this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26392#p404144 ]

Malcolm wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:12 am ...Kunzang Dechen Lingpa had this ability. Ngagpa Rinpoche was able to stop monsoon rains, droughts, and so on.
are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
it's a siddhi (or riddhi?) or a heritage from a siddha.

you can have the attainment, or develop the capacity if you are descendant of a siddha with the siddhi. i heard malcolm saying this last part, in the rigpa rangdrol and rigpa rangshar podcast in wisdom publications.
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Good connection w nagas etc
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yagmort wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:34 pm [Mod note: This quote was taken from this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26392#p404144 ]

Malcolm wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:12 am ...Kunzang Dechen Lingpa had this ability. Ngagpa Rinpoche was able to stop monsoon rains, droughts, and so on.
are these abilities connected to Thröma Nakmo practice, or it's just a coincidence ?
There is a long interview in a scholastic book (can't remember the name right now) with Khetsun Sangpo Rinpoche who was a weather controller in Tibet. As far as I can remember it involved threatening and controlling various invisible beings. If the weather controller failed the farmers blamed him/her. Khetsun Sangpo Rinpoche said he was glad he didn't have to do it anymore.

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Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
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AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
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I would say that a huge majority of us here are incapable of controlling our bowel actions, when nature calls, and we want to control the weather?

Now that is deluded.
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javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Yeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.
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Grigoris wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:36 pm I would say that a huge majority of us here are incapable of controlling our bowel actions, when nature calls, and we want to control the weather?

Now that is deluded.
Is there a Siddhi which allows one to control one's bowels? I never heard of that one.
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javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Interesting thanks
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Grigoris wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:36 pm I would say that a huge majority of us here are incapable of controlling our bowel actions, when nature calls, and we want to control the weather?

Now that is deluded.
You have a great sense of humour!!!
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javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Now you are just making things up.

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heart wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:29 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Now you are just making things up.

/magnus
of course.
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Arnoud wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:31 pm Does anybody know of any practices, obviously need to seek transmission for them?
it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Yeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.
well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
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Arnoud wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pm
Grigoris wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:36 pm I would say that a huge majority of us here are incapable of controlling our bowel actions, when nature calls, and we want to control the weather?

Now that is deluded.
Is there a Siddhi which allows one to control one's bowels? I never heard of that one.
Possibly. But I do know there are practices for transforming one's shit and piss into amrita for the suffering Preta to consume. Given how often we go to toilet, this is probably a much handier and easier to realise practice, than controlling the weather. Given we do not have the siddhi of controlling our bowels, further than tightening our sphincter, maybe it is a more important practice to work on?

I do know of a practice for controlling temperature though, very simple actually, it is called "The Dakini's Warming and Cooling Breath of Pressing the on/off Button on the A/C Control".

There is no Ngondro or ritual reading necessary for this one. :tongue:
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But seriously: The spirits involved in controlling the weather are fickle bastards, to say the least.

You cannot afford any mistakes in the offerings and practices and those mistakes can have serious consequences.

I recommend trying to control your own mind first, as this is a prerequisite to controlling the minds of others.
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javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pm
Arnoud wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 pm

it is not a transmission, is a capability. you must develop it.
Yeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.
well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
Bodhicitta being most important I reckon
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AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:32 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pm
Arnoud wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:55 pm

Yeah, but there are practices to develop the capability.
well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
Bodhicitta being most important I reckon
one cannot perform any karmic action without perfect ethic, perfect boddhicita.
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javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:01 pm
AJP wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:32 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:50 pm

well, fierce action requieres fierce yidam. or use of a special method like the vajra armor. the capability is that of giving a command and being obeyed.
Bodhicitta being most important I reckon
one cannot perform any karmic action without perfect ethic, perfect boddhicita.
Thank you

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Bone lineage.

As an aside, the term "bone lineage" was so weird to me when I first heard of it. Spirit mediumship is something that runs in my family, and in our language we call this and other in-born abilities "dons" or "gifts". Bone lineage is so on the nose.
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