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Sharing the latest rainbowbody manifestation. A low profile Dzogchen practitioner.
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Where?
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Sichuan, Ganzi.

I think it is the first time we see photo with the head and partial body of a shrunken rainbowbody that is still in Tukdam. This yogi has chosen to be naked, only covered with a monk robe when he entered tukdam.
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Who is it?

Looks a lot like the famous Khenpo Munsel
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PeterC wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:59 pm Who is it?

Looks a lot like the famous Khenpo Munsel
Anonymous yogi. I hope it is not a photo hoax. The monk with spectacle in the first photo is Lodro Ranse (rabsel?) Rinpoche.
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So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
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TharpaChodron wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
You dissolve into light after death. Shrinking is so called small rainbow body, which is not complete rainbow body.
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The Rinpoche in spectacle in the first photo is him.
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TharpaChodron wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.
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Fa Dao wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
TharpaChodron wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.
AFAIK when the body only shrinks and doesn't dissolve to the point of hair and nails, this is the atomic body, which is a result of Trekcho practice. This is stated in Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche's teachings on Longchenpa's tshig don mdzod.
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What's the difference from the practitioner's side between small and complete rainbow body? Is it degree of realization? Does one who achieves small rainbow body go to Dewachen since they didn't revert to light completely?

Apologies for the ignorance of my questions.

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Monlam Tharchin wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:38 pm What's the difference from the practitioner's side between small and complete rainbow body? Is it degree of realization? Does one who achieves small rainbow body go to Dewachen since they didn't revert to light completely?

Apologies for the ignorance of my questions.

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In Dzogchen, rainbow body is a sign (rtags) that total Buddhahood - the fruit - has been realized. Such a practitioner does not go to any kind of pureland or nirmanakaya Buddhafield, because he or she is a total Buddha.
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I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.
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Karma_Yeshe wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 pm I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.
Having commented, although you did not want to comment, do you feel better now?
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Thomas Amundsen wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:18 pm
Fa Dao wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
TharpaChodron wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.
AFAIK when the body only shrinks and doesn't dissolve to the point of hair and nails, this is the atomic body, which is a result of Trekcho practice. This is stated in Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche's teachings on Longchenpa's tshig don mdzod.
Cool...didnt know about that one...thanks for the info
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Karma_Yeshe wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 pm I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.
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Isn't that like telling a hungry person that eating breakfast is important?
It's technically true, but the timing of the advice shows an assumption more than it answers a need :shrug:
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The Tukdam state apparently only started a few days ago from 16th Dec.
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