PeterC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:59 am
dzogchungpa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:51 am
Rinchen Samphel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:33 am
Wait, so what is your view on all of this? What was your point in making this thread? (Im not implying anything, just would like to actually know) Because, I cant tell if i am receiving mixed signals or not.
If by "all of this" you mean Hays' statement re Akong R my view is that I don't know what actually happened. My point in making this thread is to stimulate discussion concerning Hays' statement, possibly turning up relevant information.
The bar for these claims to be credible is extraordinarily high, given Akong R’s character and integrity. Unless Hays has better proof than is in that post, we probably aren’t helping anyone by repeating them.
Its calumny pure and simple. Probably actionable.
The motive for repeating all this I can only make an informed conjecture about.
What I know for a fact is that I knew Akong Rinpoche for more than 30 years and never saw anything like the behaviours described.
Quite the contrary.
A person of huge integrity, kindness and dedication who did an enormous amount of good.
A small inconsequential anecdote, The last time I saw him was in a Tibetan restaurant which then existed near Leicester Square in London. Rinpoche was with two very smartly dressed Tibetans, a man and a woman. I was with my then 10 year-old granddaughter. I stopped to give him my greetings. He was his usual warm and friendly self. He waved to the empty seat at the table and gestured for my granddaughter to sit. He then chatted to her for a few moments..mostly about Tibetan food as I recall. He was amused to hear about her love of momos and Tibetan tea.
The next time I went to the restaurant several weeks later the owner told me that the other two Tibetans that day were high ranking officials in the Tibetan government in exile.
Yet he had taken time to talk to a young girl.
“You don’t know it. You just know about it. That is not the same thing.”
Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche to me.