sleep in full lotus;is this advice reliable?(city of 10 000 buddhas)

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sleep in full lotus;is this advice reliable?(city of 10 000 buddhas)

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(I havent been able to figure out to which specific school this temple belong so im posting here)
Assuming a gradual conditioning and good health,is it a good advice,meditation-wise or otherwise,to try to fall asleep and remain,during sleep,in this pose? I can do the full lotus with some effort, since I had an accident that damaged one of my ankles,but I also suffer from nightmares or worse during the night, so a practice that allows more peaceful sleep would be great.
I also feel horribly guilty and lazy when i over-sleep or snooze, but i think over sleeping is impossible if one is doing full lotus.
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City of 10,000 Buddhas was established by Venerable Master Hsuan Hua. It is associated with the Dharma Realm Buddhist Association.

At least in the Tibetan traditions, it is common for practitioners to sleep in a sitting position while they're on retreat. I don't know how common it is outside of retreat, and I'm not sure how useful it would be for a common lay practitioner. I'd say it is more important to focus on your daily practice than to worry about sleeping in a certain way, especially because this seems like it would be quite difficult.
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SonamTashi wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:51 pm City of 10,000 Buddhas was established by Venerable Master Hsuan Hua. It is associated with the
At least in the Tibetan traditions, it is common for practitioners to sleep in a sitting position while they're on retreat.
With their knees up, and this is not universal.
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Malcolm wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:56 pm
SonamTashi wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:51 pm City of 10,000 Buddhas was established by Venerable Master Hsuan Hua. It is associated with the
At least in the Tibetan traditions, it is common for practitioners to sleep in a sitting position while they're on retreat.
With their knees up, and this is not universal.
Interesting. I've never done it, so I didn't know whether it was done in full lotus or not, so I left that part out. It's good to know that if I ever go on a retreat like that, I probably won't have to do full lotus. I can barely do half lotus.
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I've done it, but I don't think anyone does it in lotus...loosely crossed legs, or knees up. You get used to it after a few days, but I don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to sleep that way. You'll find this is common with Kagyu Drupdras---sleeping in one's "meditation box."

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It’s probably cheating, but some people remove the front panel and stretch their legs out.

Of course raised prostration boards are considered cheating by purists too.
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conebeckham wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:42 am I've done it, but I don't think anyone does it in lotus...loosely crossed legs, or knees up. You get used to it after a few days, but I don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to sleep that way. You'll find this is common with Kagyu Drupdras---sleeping in one's "meditation box."

Be careful.
What does knees up mean? As in tsogpu?
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Tata1 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:33 am
conebeckham wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:42 am I've done it, but I don't think anyone does it in lotus...loosely crossed legs, or knees up. You get used to it after a few days, but I don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to sleep that way. You'll find this is common with Kagyu Drupdras---sleeping in one's "meditation box."

Be careful.
What does knees up mean? As in tsogpu?

Just more relaxed, and able to put one's legs....wherever, given the confines of a box.
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རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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