sorry if it seems unclear as what is clear to me is often obtuse to others but as a matter of my own mind it isn't apparent.jake wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 pmWhat?tkp67 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:28 pm Just a reminder regarding the mind of people with perennial belief (regardless of how it takes shape) suffer ego death at the thought of pure mortality and not all people who practice religions that teach as much as being true versus allegorical to facilitate humanitarian values.
The two major religions of the planet representing billions of people offer salvation from suffering through a belief life exists after death if one believes and earns merit.
The leaders condemn Buddhism because it SEEMS to run counter intuitively to the benefit of their belief (even though it offers a TRUE end of suffering)
Not all adherents of those religions believe the promise at face value or need it, the idea of humanitarian virtue in and of itself is enough although people like this have conviction that would benefit greatly on Buddhist teachings because they don't understand impermanence but know the alternative does not exists
Why does this matter at all here? well if we look to the Varjayana tradition to recognizing and protecting rise of ego during discourse. If we look here comparative talks have been removed for the same purpose.
I think the original statement that we don't need to put perrenialism in our own minds to respect it is amazingly poignant but this reasoning exists past those religions and it exist in the people themselves and is deeply tied to the ego who is afraid of mortality and whose attachment to those beliefs is so strong that the rise to ego it brings is impenetrable.
Are the words here to be an ivory tower for the adherents of Buddhism(it makes more sense as practice of emptiness sorry) alone or are they to be tempered with compassion for all without rise to our/their own ego or at least a mindful attempt to do so?
My appologies in advance if these words don't ring true in your mind as well as they do in mine.
PS FTR I have never for a moment felt this life was anything but unique and treated that way regardles of belief so I have no dog in this fight I just understand the hearts and minds of non Buddhist succinctly and care for their release from suffering as well as my own.