Profundity or the lack of it isn't the problem. It's your use of English. Is English your native language? I wondered because you often seem to mix up nouns, adjectives, verbs and adverbs. This is often why I give up trying to understand any point you're trying to make - because what you write is incomprehensible.tkp67 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:44 pmWhat I am saying isn't profound.PeterC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:41 pmNo, that’s not it. It’s not that we don’t understand you because your ideas are profound. It’s that we simply can’t understand what you’re saying because your posts are very confusingly written, and seem not to address the questions being discussed. Sorry.tkp67 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm
I know my friend, I know. I am not patronizing here. While I seem frivolous with belief that isn't a projection of my own mind. Do you realize I had to challenge the same distinctions. For me I could only do this through the lowest common denominator of empirical evidence.
I simply don't let my mind adhere to paradigms that serve 0 purpose.
That is why I say where is the benefit to your statements.
Remember friend one's mind determines the aspect of phenomenon one chooses to recognize (or not).
Is Buddhism a methodological solipsism?
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The antidote—to be free from the suffering of samsara—you need to be free from delusion and karma; you need to be free from ignorance, the root of samsara. So you need to meditate on emptiness. That is what you need. Lama Zopa Rinpoche
Re: Is Buddhism a methodological solipsism?
It would help if you at least stuck to English, with its generally accepted meanings and syntax, as a paradigm. That's just a suggestion, though.tkp67 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:44 pmWhat I am saying isn't profound.PeterC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:41 pmNo, that’s not it. It’s not that we don’t understand you because your ideas are profound. It’s that we simply can’t understand what you’re saying because your posts are very confusingly written, and seem not to address the questions being discussed. Sorry.tkp67 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm
I know my friend, I know. I am not patronizing here. While I seem frivolous with belief that isn't a projection of my own mind. Do you realize I had to challenge the same distinctions. For me I could only do this through the lowest common denominator of empirical evidence.
I simply don't let my mind adhere to paradigms that serve 0 purpose.
That is why I say where is the benefit to your statements.
Remember friend one's mind determines the aspect of phenomenon one chooses to recognize (or not).
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
Re: Is Buddhism a methodological solipsism?
Based on cause and condition and without resort to predetermined outcomes, the awakening of the buddha surpasses the localized variants of time in your outlook, which prevaricates in tandem with the integration of all ten realms in one moment. QED.Queequeg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:24 pmIt would help if you at least stuck to English, with its generally accepted meanings and syntax, as a paradigm. That's just a suggestion, though.
We just have to learn his language...
Re: Is Buddhism a methodological solipsism?
My language is fine. Meaning is based on two variables. Intent and interpretation both of which are driven by desires.
It is like a weird variant of mad libs.
It is like a weird variant of mad libs.
Re: Is Buddhism a methodological solipsism?
How can you talk about something that cannot be defined by distinction? You can't.Bristollad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:17 pm Profundity or the lack of it isn't the problem. It's your use of English. Is English your native language? I wondered because you often seem to mix up nouns, adjectives, verbs and adverbs. This is often why I give up trying to understand any point you're trying to make - because what you write is incomprehensible.
You can talk around it in a myriad of ways.
I understand that people are conditioned for an academic discourse as a sign of possession of knoweldge but as I said before I don't put much into counter intuitive positions regardless of how powerfully they are adhered to in other minds.
I have yet to find the benefit. I am open to understanding one but I can't find it from my perspective.
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Ok this has really gone off the rails, and I'm not sure the original post was even done in good fatih. Gonna go ahead and call it a day with this one.
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when afflicted by disease
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
-Khunu Lama
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
-Khunu Lama
Re: Does Buddhism preach any form of solipsism?
why is Buddhism not a form of solipsism (epistemological, methodological, metaphysical? thank youJohnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:05 pmNope, absolutely not.
Nope, don't know where you heard it, but that viewpoint would be uniformly rejected in Buddhist thought.(that is, one who believes in Buddhism must believe that only he has consciousness, and other people - philosophical zombies)? 2. Does this mean that Buddhism supports all forms of solipsism? That is, 10 percent of the population are people who do not believe that other people have the same consciousness, mind and feelings as they do? In other words, are all Buddhists or all other people just an illusion (philosophical zombies)? For example, when I talk to a Buddhist, does he think I'm a philosophical zombie? Thanks
Again nope, you either misinterpreted something or read something which simply was not true.I read on the Internet that Buddhism is solipsism
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Re: Does Buddhism preach any form of solipsism?
Because it doesn't deny that sentient beings have individual mindstreams. In fact, it is predicated on the fact that they do, otherwise Buddhahood would not be possible.Cool-team wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:31 amwhy is Buddhism not a form of solipsism (epistemological, methodological, metaphysical? thank youJohnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:05 pmNope, absolutely not.
Nope, don't know where you heard it, but that viewpoint would be uniformly rejected in Buddhist thought.(that is, one who believes in Buddhism must believe that only he has consciousness, and other people - philosophical zombies)? 2. Does this mean that Buddhism supports all forms of solipsism? That is, 10 percent of the population are people who do not believe that other people have the same consciousness, mind and feelings as they do? In other words, are all Buddhists or all other people just an illusion (philosophical zombies)? For example, when I talk to a Buddhist, does he think I'm a philosophical zombie? Thanks
Again nope, you either misinterpreted something or read something which simply was not true.I read on the Internet that Buddhism is solipsism
Beyond that, if you want to continue you need to explain why you think Buddhism *is* or might be a form of solipsism. You are here on a Buddhist site, asking a random question with no background as to what school or part of Buddhism you are talking about.
So basically, you are taking a philosophical concept unrelated to Buddhism and asking people to "disprove" that Buddhism meets the criteria for that philosophy.
Rather, you should figure out what part of Buddhist doctrine you are asking about, then specifically either explain why it's solipsism, or simply ask about it.
The approach you are taking here is possibly contrary to the ToS, and moreover is probably a waste of time. I will shutter the thread if you can't be more specific about your questions, and/or learn enough about Buddhism to properly criticize it or compare it to something else.
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when afflicted by disease
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
-Khunu Lama
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
-Khunu Lama
Re: Does Buddhism preach any form of solipsism?
We have our own individual karmic dream, which is our prison. That is why there is great variety of medicines in Buddhism, to come out, to awaken by compassionate enlightened guidance.
Buddhism makes clear: dependence-emptiness. No independent self standing alone. Then what to compare?
Possible not having studied different philosophies could be more easy? Then there is not the problem "is it like this or like that." Then clarity is necessary.
ps The words by Garchen Rinpoche here below are explanation of meditation, coming out of prison, NOT object to discuss or argue.
Buddhism makes clear: dependence-emptiness. No independent self standing alone. Then what to compare?
Possible not having studied different philosophies could be more easy? Then there is not the problem "is it like this or like that." Then clarity is necessary.
ps The words by Garchen Rinpoche here below are explanation of meditation, coming out of prison, NOT object to discuss or argue.
“We are each living in our own soap opera. We do not see things as they really are. We see only our interpretations. This is because our minds are always so busy...But when the mind calms down, it becomes clear. This mental clarity enables us to see things as they really are, instead of projecting our commentary on everything.” Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bg9jOYnEUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bg9jOYnEUA
Re: Does Buddhism preach any form of solipsism?
Didn't we have this discussion here ->https://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35834 ?Cool-team wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:31 amwhy is Buddhism not a form of solipsism (epistemological, methodological, metaphysical? thank youJohnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:05 pmNope, absolutely not.
Nope, don't know where you heard it, but that viewpoint would be uniformly rejected in Buddhist thought.(that is, one who believes in Buddhism must believe that only he has consciousness, and other people - philosophical zombies)? 2. Does this mean that Buddhism supports all forms of solipsism? That is, 10 percent of the population are people who do not believe that other people have the same consciousness, mind and feelings as they do? In other words, are all Buddhists or all other people just an illusion (philosophical zombies)? For example, when I talk to a Buddhist, does he think I'm a philosophical zombie? Thanks
Again nope, you either misinterpreted something or read something which simply was not true.I read on the Internet that Buddhism is solipsism
Is there more to be gained from this discussion?
Re: Does Buddhism preach any form of solipsism?
The formulation of thought is biased by every moment one's mind has existed in one's body. For example the definition of mother is personalized by your own familial experiences. Same with culture, language and even palate.Cool-team wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:11 pmThank you, but i don't understand you, can you explain your answer?Queequeg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:02 pm Even though there are no beings, including ourselves, we vow to liberate them.
I think many people who don't bother to try and understand Buddhism will try to put the teachings into neat little boxes by which they order their own worlds. If they only understood what Buddhists are actually saying... their minds might melt, much of it in a good way!
All of the defined concepts that one would use to invalidate/validate solipsism are in and of themselves manifestations of the very same mind. The mind creates the very illusions that would allow them to appear as such (true reality).
How do you measure the boundaries of a concept when one's own mind is the one that imposes them?