Unique? When I first saw it I immediately compared it to a caravan.tomamundsen wrote:...The unique thing about this vs a house is its mobility.
Kim
Unique? When I first saw it I immediately compared it to a caravan.tomamundsen wrote:...The unique thing about this vs a house is its mobility.
Groundhouse - Earthship BrittanyDGA wrote:Most off-the-gridders live in rural areas, often remote areas. Earthships are a feature of the landscape in New Mexico, where population density is very, very low, for example. The carbon footprint of rural life is significantly higher due to an increased need for transport, for example.
One obvious thing is the heating problem: when it comes to heating, they just cannot guarantee that the ecocapsule will turn out to be a year-round house -- all depends on the environment. But actually many more of its functions are equally susceptible to environmental conditions: its water storage capacity and its toilet composter, for instance.tomamundsen wrote:Any idea what specifically breaks regarding its off grid capabilities? The unique thing about this vs a house is its mobility.
The rest here: http://www.treehugger.com/tiny-houses/e ... -pipe.htmlI often complain about the designs of tiny homes and as we say on our about page, am partial to a modern aesthetic. But I do wonder about how this unit actually could live up to some of the designers' claims:
If offers a long off-grid stay
It brings civilization’s standards into the wilderness
It has an energy sustainable shape
It has low energy consumption
It is easily transportable around the globe
It does not require any supporting infrastructure
Everything needs supporting infrastructure; waste tanks have to be emptied, gas bottles for cooking have to be filled. Truly going off grid is hard work, a lot more than just airdropping an egg.
Well yea. A caravan needs a hookup whereas this thing doesn't. I'm not specifically interested in buying this, but looking to see where this kind of tech goes in the future. These kinds of things might improve a lot within 10 years or less.Kim O'Hara wrote:Unique? When I first saw it I immediately compared it to a caravan.tomamundsen wrote:...The unique thing about this vs a house is its mobility.
Kim
I honestly do not think so -- they will not improve enough to become an actual housing option. Unless, of course, you find yourself living in the environment they are ideally suitable for and do not really intend to move.tomamundsen wrote:These kinds of things might improve a lot within 10 years or less.
Fair enough. I wasn't really basing my statement on anything substantial.treehuggingoctopus wrote:I honestly do not think so -- they will not improve enough to become an actual housing option. Unless, of course, you find yourself living in the environment they are ideally suitable for and do not really intend to move.tomamundsen wrote:These kinds of things might improve a lot within 10 years or less.
Without proper outdoor skills most of these privileged hipsters would be dead from either hunger or cold.Nemo wrote:Once you get up to R40 insulation and use passive solar gain you can heat with wood ecologically again. Half a cord a year for a family of 4 in the Canadian bush. Making your own power and growing your own food is a much better idea than buying gold, diversifying your portfolio or pretending your pension will still be there when you retire.
This is not for the poor though. To do so takes a great deal of privilege in terms of intelligence, time and a way to have a modest income living far from a population centre. In many cases I find hipsters romanticizing poverty. I can live in egg cartons and have no carbon footprint because I eat garbage from dumpsters. We have created a generation whose greatest aspiration is to live in a shed.
I do not really know about these things, just parroting what I have heard from the architects I have worked and become friendly with. But the civil engineers guys I talk to now and then are of the same opinion. They may well be right.tomamundsen wrote:Fair enough. I wasn't really basing my statement on anything substantial.treehuggingoctopus wrote:I honestly do not think so -- they will not improve enough to become an actual housing option. Unless, of course, you find yourself living in the environment they are ideally suitable for and do not really intend to move.tomamundsen wrote:These kinds of things might improve a lot within 10 years or less.
Pardon my cynical attitude but is this saying it is possible to live off grid as long as you have money to buy the high tech gear from the on-grid people?Vasana wrote:Things like solar panels, D.i.Y wind turbines, batteries for storage and good permaculture know how mean that living off grid is as realistic as you're willing to commit to the lifestyle changes.
There's a bunch ofp stuff on YouTube. Both traditional homesteads and more modernized approaches.
Well, Vasana did mention permaculture. But even learning the basics of permaculture involves being on-grid, of course, presently at least -- and switching to permacultural gardening is just infinitely easier when one is on-grid. The paradox of every revolution: the new is (to some extent at least) to be attained by the old within the old in terms of the old.mikenz66 wrote:Pardon my cynical attitude but is this saying it is possible to live off grid as long as you have money to buy the high tech gear from the on-grid people?Vasana wrote:Things like solar panels, D.i.Y wind turbines, batteries for storage and good permaculture know how mean that living off grid is as realistic as you're willing to commit to the lifestyle changes.
There's a bunch ofp stuff on YouTube. Both traditional homesteads and more modernized approaches.
Mike
Material dialectics. You can thank Marx for that one!treehuggingoctopus wrote:Well, Vasana did mention permaculture. But even learning the basics of permaculture involves being on-grid, of course, presently at least -- and switching to permacultural gardening is just infinitely easier when one is on-grid. The paradox of every revolution: the new is (to some extent at least) to be attained by the old within the old in terms of the old.mikenz66 wrote:Pardon my cynical attitude but is this saying it is possible to live off grid as long as you have money to buy the high tech gear from the on-grid people?Vasana wrote:Things like solar panels, D.i.Y wind turbines, batteries for storage and good permaculture know how mean that living off grid is as realistic as you're willing to commit to the lifestyle changes.
There's a bunch ofp stuff on YouTube. Both traditional homesteads and more modernized approaches.
Mike
Not just a few proponents of off-the-grid living seem to be doing it primarily because it's fashionable these days, and because it seems like a lucrative enough business.mikenz66 wrote:I guess I'm wondering what the motivation is. If it is to be more resilient in a crisis, then being off the grid one thing. If the idea is to be long-term independent of the grid then you won't have devices such as solar cells and high-tech batteries.
Yeah - existing infrastructure is used tp develop tramsformative and regenerative infrastructure. I once stayed on a permaculture farm that described it's self as around 80% self sufficient. They didn't seem too bummed about the last 20% since it's always a work in progress and an exercise in working with circumstances.treehuggingoctopus wrote:mikenz66 wrote:Pardon my cynical attitude but is this saying it is possible to live off grid as long as you have money to buy the high tech gear from the on-grid people?Vasana wrote:Things like solar panels, D.i.Y wind turbines, batteries for storage and good permaculture know how mean that living off grid is as realistic as you're willing to commit to the lifestyle changes.
There's a bunch ofp stuff on YouTube. Both traditional homesteads and more modernized approaches.
Mike
Well, Vasana did mention permaculture. But even learning the basics of permaculture involves being on-grid, of course, presently at least -- and switching to permacultural gardening is just infinitely easier when one is on-grid. The paradox of every revolution: the new is (to some extent at least) to be attained by the old within the old in terms of the old.