It would be wise to avoid some of the debates, and aim principally at grasping the Sarvastivada view, and Sautrantika critique.
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I think that's where we'll lean on you to put up the guardrails and keep the discussion on track.
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
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One thing that is a little confusing for some, is that Vasubandhu seems to let the Sarvastivadins win some of the time, though not often.Queequeg wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:16 pmI think that's where we'll lean on you to put up the guardrails and keep the discussion on track.
I personally think Vasubandhu was always a Mahāyāni.
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Okay kiddies.
That is it for me.
Rupa is "finished".
I reckon we let discussion run for another week and then...
Next is Samskara.
Who is up to it?
That is it for me.
Rupa is "finished".
I reckon we let discussion run for another week and then...
Next is Samskara.
Who is up to it?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Just to be sure we're talking the same things, can you suggest using page numbers? I've got a crunch at work for the next few weeks but can sign up to be third if someone else will take the lead now.
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Aggregate of formations ( samskaraskandha) p230 and 231 of the GELONG LODRO SANGPO version.
Yes, that is right, it is only two pages.
Yes, that is right, it is only two pages.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Do we have a volunteer to play point for the next few sections?
(i.10-19)?
I don't know about you, but I'm finding this group reading helpful. Thanks to Greg for the work.
Standby, Greg, we might need to press you back into service soon.
(i.10-19)?
I don't know about you, but I'm finding this group reading helpful. Thanks to Greg for the work.
Standby, Greg, we might need to press you back into service soon.
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
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Bump for attention -
I hope we haven't given up on this already...
Any volunteers?
I hope we haven't given up on this already...
Any volunteers?
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
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Yes. That would be a good manageable chunk, I think. Are you up for it? 
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
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Awesome!
Thank you!
Thank you!
There is no suffering to be severed. Ignorance and klesas are indivisible from bodhi. There is no cause of suffering to be abandoned. Since extremes and the false are the Middle and genuine, there is no path to be practiced. Samsara is nirvana. No severance achieved. No suffering nor its cause. No path, no end. There is no transcendent realm; there is only the one true aspect. There is nothing separate from the true aspect.
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
-Guanding, Perfect and Sudden Contemplation,
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I think I’ve completed the section I would do, but I’d be happy to continue for a bit longer, provided my notes aren’t putting people to sleep. Thoughts?
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Anyone? Bueller?
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I was on holidays and after returning have been flat out at work plus all the feast day practices, so I really haven't had the chance yet to read anything.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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My apologies for disappearing but have wrapped up work things and ready to continue. I hope others are as well.
How is the format working for everyone?
How is the format working for everyone?
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The copy I had ordered of the Ornament of Abhidharma arrived today. Unfortunately, I only came to know afterwards that Jampaiyang's commentary is especially difficult.
I'm certainly getting into something that is way beyond my level, but hopefully the users' notes and verse discussions in here will help me grasp the text in an acceptable and meaningful way.
I'm certainly getting into something that is way beyond my level, but hopefully the users' notes and verse discussions in here will help me grasp the text in an acceptable and meaningful way.
Looking but not seeing - that's my eye.
Thinking but not minding - that's my mind.
Speaking but not expressing - that's my tongue.
Traveling but not going - that's my path.
Thinking but not minding - that's my mind.
Speaking but not expressing - that's my tongue.
Traveling but not going - that's my path.