That's the sensible solution. But as mentioned earlier, I don't see this as any kind of major issue - more like something to bring awareness into, as a community.
Dealing with political fragmentation
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I am asking a question. If you do not want to expand on your explanation, we cannot really continue the discussion. Seems you are being just as guilty of haste.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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views for and against are exactly the cause of samsara says buddha
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Did you read it? I wrote: "If an actual person is an object of attack, then this would probably be an instance of using the bat. As a few of us did a few weeks ago when someone started a thread with the sole purpose of besmirching you. I think this is also true of groups. When something needs to be defended, it should be defended."
Does this not answer your question? i.e. isn't it perfectly clear that if a minority group is being attacked in some harmful way, then yes, for sure they ought to be defended.
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Can you please give an example of when we should "let it go?tobes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:49 pmDid you read it? I wrote: "If an actual person is an object of attack, then this would probably be an instance of using the bat. As a few of us did a few weeks ago when someone started a thread with the sole purpose of besmirching you. I think this is also true of groups. When something needs to be defended, it should be defended."
Does this not answer your question? i.e. isn't it perfectly clear that if a minority group is being attacked in some harmful way, then yes, for sure they ought to be defended.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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I leave quite a lot, but I suppose you can never see me do it!Grigoris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:11 pmCan you please give an example of when we should "let it go?tobes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:49 pmDid you read it? I wrote: "If an actual person is an object of attack, then this would probably be an instance of using the bat. As a few of us did a few weeks ago when someone started a thread with the sole purpose of besmirching you. I think this is also true of groups. When something needs to be defended, it should be defended."
Does this not answer your question? i.e. isn't it perfectly clear that if a minority group is being attacked in some harmful way, then yes, for sure they ought to be defended.
But, I speak up too, where necessary.
I'm getting the sense that no one else really senses any issue here, so I think it is time to conclude that this is just tobes' little suggestion to himself....
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For the non-cricketing folk - leaving well:
What Grigoris is worried about/getting it wrong:
What Grigoris is worried about/getting it wrong: