What is the application of practicing nagarjuna middle way in real life?

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What is the application of practicing nagarjuna middle way in real life?

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If someone reads and want to apply nagarjuna middle way discourse in real life, how would he do? will he know that all things have no position and simple dont have clinging or no intentional action? what is the real application in terms of experience ? pls use conventional language and words to say so i can grasp whats the truth
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The Heart Attack Sutra by Dr Karl Brunnholzl talks about this exact issue - how do you practice madhyamaka? It's a really good book.
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confusedlayman wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:08 am If someone reads and want to apply nagarjuna middle way discourse in real life, how would he do? will he know that all things have no position and simple dont have clinging or no intentional action? what is the real application in terms of experience ? pls use conventional language and words to say so i can grasp whats the truth
Practice Mahayana. Aryadeva’s 400 verses and Shantideva’s Bodhicaryavatara are essentially manuals on how to practice Mahayana from a madhyamaka perspective.
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confusedlayman wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:08 amIf someone reads and want to apply nagarjuna middle way discourse in real life, how would he do?
Apart from the mentioned Catushataka (see also its commentary) and the Bodhicaryavatara, there are the Ratnavali and the Suhrllekha by Nagarjuna, and the Siksasamuccaya by Santideva.
will he know that all things have no position and simple dont have clinging or no intentional action? what is the real application in terms of experience ?
It's cultivating the six paramitas. See this great summary: Nagarjuna on the Six Perfections.
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"
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Malcolm wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:17 pm
confusedlayman wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:08 am If someone reads and want to apply nagarjuna middle way discourse in real life, how would he do? will he know that all things have no position and simple dont have clinging or no intentional action? what is the real application in terms of experience ? pls use conventional language and words to say so i can grasp whats the truth
Practice Mahayana. Aryadeva’s 400 verses and Shantideva’s Bodhicaryavatara are essentially manuals on how to practice Mahayana from a madhyamaka perspective.
Are there translations/editions of either which you especially recommend?

:thanks:
With a heart wandering in ignorance down this path and that, to guide me I simply say Namu-Amida-Butsu. -- Ippen

Reciting the Nembutsu and believing in birth in the Pure Land naturally give rise to the Three Minds and the Four Modes of Practice. -- Master Hōnen
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There is a good podcast Channel called LamRim, which frequently plays a rotation of recorded teachings by HH Dalai Lama. During one of these, he raises this very question, and explains that reason for understanding the teachings by Nagarjuna is to provide a basis (first, intellectual, then later, experiential)for not clinging to phenomena.

Of course, it is precisely the clinging or grasping to constantly phenomena (both self and other)
as somehow substantial, which is at the core of suffering.

The sole purpose of all Buddhist teachings
is the cessation of suffering.

。。。
EMPTIFUL.
An inward outlook develops outward insight.
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PadmaVonSamba wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:35 am There is a good podcast Channel called LamRim, which frequently plays a rotation of recorded teachings by HH Dalai Lama. During one of these, he raises this very question, and explains that reason for understanding the teachings by Nagarjuna is to provide a basis (first, intellectual, then later, experiential)for not clinging to phenomena.

Of course, it is precisely the clinging or grasping to constantly phenomena (both self and other)
as somehow substantial, which is at the core of suffering.

The sole purpose of all Buddhist teachings
is the cessation of suffering.

。。。
thanks. I also thought the same.
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It is practicing the path of the large prajnaparamita sutras.
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