Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
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Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Hi,
I have found a small tiny statue I presume to be one of Lama Tsongkhapa but the third eye thing kind of throws me off. Can you guys give me your expertise if it is really him? Also there is a small hole in the statue under his legs, do you think it is kosher to be used or can I use some metal to fill it in?
I have found a small tiny statue I presume to be one of Lama Tsongkhapa but the third eye thing kind of throws me off. Can you guys give me your expertise if it is really him? Also there is a small hole in the statue under his legs, do you think it is kosher to be used or can I use some metal to fill it in?
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Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Because we cannot see the color of the hat, it could be Atisha as well, I believe.
And the spot on the forehead doesn't really look like an eye, I think. It could be a kind of mark as well.
And the spot on the forehead doesn't really look like an eye, I think. It could be a kind of mark as well.
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Thank you Ayu. Yeah that might be it. Hm okay either Atisha or Lama Tsongkhapa. Shame I cannot ask in the shop as the lady didn't know either.Ayu wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:30 pm Because we cannot see the color of the hat, it could be Atisha as well, I believe.
And the spot on the forehead doesn't really look like an eye, I think. It could be a kind of mark as well.
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For those who do virtuous actions,
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For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
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For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
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Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Is there any way for it to be decided whether it is Lama Tsongkhapa or Atisha outside of the colour of the hat which is lacking?
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goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
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Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Hm honestly I'd say it is Lama Tsongkhapa based on the fact he is more ofthen depicted with the two flowers behind him than Atisha is.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Typically, the flanking flower garlands support a text on his left and sword on right.Könchok Thrinley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:40 pm Hm honestly I'd say it is Lama Tsongkhapa based on the fact he is more ofthen depicted with the two flowers behind him than Atisha is.
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Yeah I noticed too but not sure such detail is even possible. I mean it is really small. But just by the flowers being there it ought to be him I guess.zerwe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:21 pmTypically, the flanking flower garlands support a text on his left and sword on right.Könchok Thrinley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:40 pm Hm honestly I'd say it is Lama Tsongkhapa based on the fact he is more ofthen depicted with the two flowers behind him than Atisha is.
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“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Dodrupchen Jigme Tenpe Nyima, Jigme Phuntsok, Sakya Pandita, Kathok Situ Chokyi Gyamtso....
and many, many more are depicted like Tsongkhapa
and many, many more are depicted like Tsongkhapa
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Gosh darn it. Well I guess in this case the statue is what you make it.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
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I think Tsongkhapa was much taller than that statue.Könchok Thrinley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:51 amGosh darn it. Well I guess in this case the statue is what you make it.
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Hazel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:04 pmI think Tsongkhapa was much taller than that statue.Könchok Thrinley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:51 amGosh darn it. Well I guess in this case the statue is what you make it.
No, he just fits between my fingers without my hand getting bigger and he getting smaller!
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Sakya Pendita has a rather different hat and, with a slightly different hat, it could have been Ngorchen Künga Zangpo, but no
it all boils down tho the attributes on the two lotuses, not really clear due to the size of the object
He can be as well:
Butön Rinchen Drub
Longchen Rabjampa
Bodong Choglé Namgyel
Jamgön Kongtrül Lodrö Thayé
far from exhaustive
please note that for many teachers there is nowadays a usual or accepted standard representation but it often varied through the times /areas ...
Is it consecrated? if no, if you think Tsongkhapa, have some relevant blessings put inside (well, little place for long dharanis) and ask a lama to bless it as such
Where did you find it?
"Me and the sky don't hold views - Me and the river have no fixed practice
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
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Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
There isn't really any space for any blessing substances it is fully metal without a hole. So I guess just a blessing without filling. And I found it in my local "Tibet shop". That place is strange as they have some amazing statues that can be quite hard to find for example I have a small iron statue of Achi Chokyi Drolma and now I am saving up for Mahakala from Drikung tradition as well. IT is a lovely shop and the lady is just sweet.nyonchung wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:22 pmSakya Pendita has a rather different hat and, with a slightly different hat, it could have been Ngorchen Künga Zangpo, but no
it all boils down tho the attributes on the two lotuses, not really clear due to the size of the object
He can be as well:
Butön Rinchen Drub
Longchen Rabjampa
Bodong Choglé Namgyel
Jamgön Kongtrül Lodrö Thayé
far from exhaustive
please note that for many teachers there is nowadays a usual or accepted standard representation but it often varied through the times /areas ...
Is it consecrated? if no, if you think Tsongkhapa, have some relevant blessings put inside (well, little place for long dharanis) and ask a lama to bless it as such
Where did you find it?
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
So much for me regarding the space, I should have think twice before mentioning it!
Seeing the small size of this statue, obviously ther can't be any ...
Maybe you can start a thread "the smallest Buddha statue"?
Such small statues are often casted in large series:
- to be blessed by teachers, who will give them to students and sponsors
- to insert in stupas or larger statues
this is nice to have a decent Himalayan art shop around, and with decent prices
All the best
smyon chung
Seeing the small size of this statue, obviously ther can't be any ...
Maybe you can start a thread "the smallest Buddha statue"?
Such small statues are often casted in large series:
- to be blessed by teachers, who will give them to students and sponsors
- to insert in stupas or larger statues
this is nice to have a decent Himalayan art shop around, and with decent prices
All the best
smyon chung
"Me and the sky don't hold views - Me and the river have no fixed practice
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
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Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
Hehe yeah you should have.nyonchung wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:58 pm So much for me regarding the space, I should have think twice before mentioning it!
Seeing the small size of this statue, obviously ther can't be any ...
Maybe you can start a thread "the smallest Buddha statue"?
Such small statues are often casted in large series:
- to be blessed by teachers, who will give them to students and sponsors
- to insert in stupas or larger statues
this is nice to have a decent Himalayan art shop around, and with decent prices
All the best
smyon chung
You are kidding but I could actually start such thread as I have another statue from probably the same workshop that is a similar size and it is a Yellow Dzambhala, who I thought was black Dzambhala as it is really almost too small to discern. That is what happens whem poor people want statues.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Lama Tsongkhapa statue with 3rd eye?
They're quite different, no?Könchok Thrinley wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:58 pm
You are kidding but I could actually start such thread as I have another statue from probably the same workshop that is a similar size and it is a Yellow Dzambhala, who I thought was black Dzambhala as it is really almost too small to discern. That is what happens whem poor people want statues. :brok
here a nice one:
https://www.himalayanart.org/items/65158
rarely found or at absurd prices in websites
as for small Yellow Jambhalas, they're often used in water-washing rituals (didn't practice) or to be installed in nor bum (vase of riches)
did you had it consecrated?
"Me and the sky don't hold views - Me and the river have no fixed practice
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
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They are, however due to the size of it I thought he stood, however it was the half sitting position he makes.nyonchung wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:21 pm They're quite different, no?
here a nice one:
https://www.himalayanart.org/items/65158
rarely found or at absurd prices in websites
as for small Yellow Jambhalas, they're often used in water-washing rituals (didn't practice) or to be installed in nor bum (vase of riches)
did you had it consecrated?
Yeah, they are hard to get ones hands on. I wanted him for a black Dzambhala water offering practice.
Unfortunately not as my lama is quite far away and the pandemic prohibits us from meeting.
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra