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Aemilius
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"Within a community", that is of course true, otherwise there wouldn't have been humans or other social species on this planet. But feuds are an established phenomenon even in genetic studies. Feuds between clans can explain the bottlenecks that are found in the patrilinear DNA. These feuds have lasted for tens of thousands of years or longer.
Many studies and papers have been written in this field, here is one of them:

MICHELLE STARR, 31 MAY 2018
"Around 7,000 years ago - all the way back in the Neolithic - something really peculiar happened to human genetic diversity. Over the next 2,000 years, and seen across Africa, Europe and Asia, the genetic diversity of the Y chromosome collapsed, becoming as though there was only one man for every 17 women.
Now, through computer modelling, researchers believe they have found the cause of this mysterious phenomenon: fighting between patrilineal clans.

Drops in genetic diversity among humans are not unheard of, inferred based on genetic patterns in modern humans. But these usually affect entire populations, probably as the result of a disaster or other event that shrinks the population and therefore the gene pool.

But the Neolithic Y-chromosome bottleneck, as it is known, has been something of a puzzle since its discovery in 2015. This is because it was only observed on the genes on the Y chromosome that get passed down from father to son - which means it only affected men."

The full article https://www.sciencealert.com/neolithic- ... neal-clans

Another article, Cultural hitchhiking and competition between patrilineal kin groups explain the post-Neolithic Y-chromosome bottleneck https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-04375-6
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:reading:
Interesting articles - thanks - but they don't support the prevalence of feuds so much as inter-community conflict or warfare.
Attack the next village, kill all the men and boys, take the women as slaves or wives, take all their food and land - standard operating procedure for a depressingly long segment of human history.

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Kim O'Hara wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:21 am :reading:
Interesting articles - thanks - but they don't support the prevalence of feuds so much as inter-community conflict or warfare.
Attack the next village, kill all the men and boys, take the women as slaves or wives, take all their food and land - standard operating procedure for a depressingly long segment of human history.

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Kim,

The pastoralists who did so were all patrilineal clans. This corresponds very neatly with Maria Gimbutas' Kurgan hypothesis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_hypothesis
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