They have appetite.If they did, they would not be dead people in various stages of decomposition.Don’t zombies have awareness?
What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
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1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
So do Venus Flytraps.Schrödinger’s Yidam wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:47 pmThey have appetite.If they did, they would not be dead people in various stages of decomposition.Don’t zombies have awareness?
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
In 28 Days Later the Zombies are living humans infected with rabies, they are definitely sentient beings in that case.
In the Last of Us the Zombies are living humans taken whose behaviour is controlled by a strain of Cordyceps fungus, they are probably also sentient beings.
The George A. Romero Zombies are actual reanimated corpses, which are more complicated.
The question of "does a philosophical zombie have buddha nature" is an interesting challenge though.
In the Last of Us the Zombies are living humans taken whose behaviour is controlled by a strain of Cordyceps fungus, they are probably also sentient beings.
The George A. Romero Zombies are actual reanimated corpses, which are more complicated.
The question of "does a philosophical zombie have buddha nature" is an interesting challenge though.
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
The name of the virus in 28 days later is "Rage", not rabies. In other news:
"Danny Boyle has revealed he's working on a follow-up to 28 Days Later.
The director told The Independent that a third film is in the works with Ex Machina filmmaker Alex Garland, who wrote the 2002 original.
"Alex Garland and I have a wonderful idea for the third part," he said. "It's properly good."
He continued: "The original film led to a bit of a resurgence in the zombie drama and it doesn't reference any of that. It doesn't feel stale at all. He's concentrating on directing his own work at the moment, so it's stood in abeyance really, but it's a you-never-know."
Sequel 28 Weeks Later, directed by Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, was released in 2007.
The question of "does a philosophical zombie have buddha nature" is an interesting challenge though.
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It's a moot point bc zombies are fictional. The tantric practice of transferring conscious into a corpse is a conscious.Malcolm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:34 pmThe name of the virus in 28 days later is "Rage", not rabies. In other news:
"Danny Boyle has revealed he's working on a follow-up to 28 Days Later.
The director told The Independent that a third film is in the works with Ex Machina filmmaker Alex Garland, who wrote the 2002 original.
"Alex Garland and I have a wonderful idea for the third part," he said. "It's properly good."
He continued: "The original film led to a bit of a resurgence in the zombie drama and it doesn't reference any of that. It doesn't feel stale at all. He's concentrating on directing his own work at the moment, so it's stood in abeyance really, but it's a you-never-know."
Sequel 28 Weeks Later, directed by Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, was released in 2007.The question of "does a philosophical zombie have buddha nature" is an interesting challenge though.
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
If it ends up worth splitting the thread, it will certainly be the strangest split I've done in my short time as a moderator.....
Potential subject lines include:
* The Great Zombie Debate
* An Actual Zombie Thread
* Braaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiins!!
* On The Hunger of Brains and Whether This Constitutes Awareness and if So Whether thi
Edit:
I don't meant to dissuade discussion about zombies or anything else. I'm just making a joke.
Potential subject lines include:
* The Great Zombie Debate
* An Actual Zombie Thread
* Braaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiins!!
* On The Hunger of Brains and Whether This Constitutes Awareness and if So Whether thi
Edit:
I don't meant to dissuade discussion about zombies or anything else. I'm just making a joke.
Happy Pride month to my queer dharma siblings!
What do you see when you turn out the lights?
What do you see when you turn out the lights?
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
What about Vetalis? And, Vajravetali?Malcolm wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 10:32 pmIf they did, they would not be dead people in various stages of decomposition.
Shaun
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
Vetalas are a kind of spirit that reanimates a corpse. It's pretty hard to kill spirits.
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
OK I'll bite. (No pun intended.) There are examples in nature of sentient beings being taken over by fungi. Read the link below with caution because it is pretty disgusting.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/anim ... -over-ants
Now - does the zombie ant still have Buddhanature?
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
One word: MatangoPeterC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:36 amOK I'll bite. (No pun intended.) There are examples in nature of sentient beings being taken over by fungi. Read the link below with caution because it is pretty disgusting.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/anim ... -over-ants
Now - does the zombie ant still have Buddhanature?
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
Yes. But it basically has an incurable disease that destroyed it's cognitive function, like severe dementia.PeterC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:36 amOK I'll bite. (No pun intended.) There are examples in nature of sentient beings being taken over by fungi. Read the link below with caution because it is pretty disgusting.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/anim ... -over-ants
Now - does the zombie ant still have Buddhanature?
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Pretty sure there’s some zombie action in Blazing Splendor if I remember correctly.
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
Yes, from the camp of Shakya Sri.dharmafootsteps wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm Pretty sure there’s some zombie action in Blazing Splendor if I remember correctly.
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Regarding seeing the Lama as pure . For those thinking of getting involved or already committed to that path I would recommend 'Fallout, recovering from abuse in Tibetan Buddhism' by Tahlia Newland. The dharma has only recently come to the West but scandals keep being revealed every few years with similar ingredients involved.
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What? If you have samaya with a teacher you're supposed to regard them as pure. However, this is related to not fixating on minor faults not turning a blind eye to abuse. This is of course why it is adviced to inspect the teacher beforehand.[email protected] wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:18 pm Regarding seeing the Lama as pure . For those thinking of getting involved or already committed to that path I would recommend 'Fallout, recovering from abuse in Tibetan Buddhism' by Tahlia Newland. The dharma has only recently come to the West but scandals keep being revealed every few years with similar ingredients involved.
Anyway, there's already numerous threads on this subjects, e.g., the thread on Chogyam Trungpa.
Edit: My point is that Guru Yoga is an indispensable part of Vajrayana.
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Unfortunately turning a blind eye to actual abuse has happened and looks set to continue. Although it is advised to inspect the teacher beforehand many people will take initiations and have 'samaya' with unscrupulous teachers. This is also enabled by those students 'in the know' keeping silent about what has been going on behind closed doors. This problem is compounded by 'teachers' claiming their students have samaya with them when in fact there was no samaya to break as the 'teacher' was not even qualified and other Rinpoches wading in on the side of the abusers.
Guru Yoga is a part of Vajrayana but has sadly been misused. I recommended Thalia Newland's book as it could at least help us understand how cult like thinking and abuse can develop and also not be dismissive of those students who have been damaged.
Guru Yoga is a part of Vajrayana but has sadly been misused. I recommended Thalia Newland's book as it could at least help us understand how cult like thinking and abuse can develop and also not be dismissive of those students who have been damaged.
Re: What if seeing a lama as pure was less about lifting a lama up and more about bringing purity
Things are also made difficult by ambitious students, dharma tourists of all kinds, various weirdos you meet in small groups with special interests ... people pretending to be studying Dharma but having an hidden agenda , the list is long.
So if some students been damaged, a few students also damaged things around, this is why I left Dharma centers long ago.
I knew some young monks/lamas that had been seriously damaged too by Western "students" and "benefactors".
Clash of cultures.
As for France, I know of at least one lama accused of horrors, cleared in court - he was kind enough to let the accusers free (he could have sue them to financial less), and I know also of two cases of sexual abuse that duly ended in court. If anything serious, the police / justice system does its job (and small religious groups are under close watch, being considered as potential cults, something the US certainly doesen't have)
Not to mention a stream of anti-Asian racism in some cases (as for France, definitely)
And certainly, anti-buddhist groups of various hues at work (this is not paranoïa - but a geopolitical observation + direct experience)
So if some students been damaged, a few students also damaged things around, this is why I left Dharma centers long ago.
I knew some young monks/lamas that had been seriously damaged too by Western "students" and "benefactors".
Clash of cultures.
As for France, I know of at least one lama accused of horrors, cleared in court - he was kind enough to let the accusers free (he could have sue them to financial less), and I know also of two cases of sexual abuse that duly ended in court. If anything serious, the police / justice system does its job (and small religious groups are under close watch, being considered as potential cults, something the US certainly doesen't have)
Not to mention a stream of anti-Asian racism in some cases (as for France, definitely)
And certainly, anti-buddhist groups of various hues at work (this is not paranoïa - but a geopolitical observation + direct experience)
"Me and the sky don't hold views - Me and the river have no fixed practice
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)
Me and the madman don't have a guide- Me and the rainbow have no experiences
Me, the sun and the moon have no certitudes - Me and the jewel bear no fruit" - Dampa Sanggyé as quoted by Domar Mingyur Dorjé (born 1675)