Dharma Wheel

That is the standard method in Buddhism, with or without the concept of buddha-nature. One has to purify the mind, so to say. But whether one believes that it is already pure but still needs some cleaning, or that it simply needs some cleaning, if approached properly, makes no difference in the end...

The third version might be is how the two truths are used, in which case mind is the conventional idea of a continuous entity and its original nature is the ultimate reality of it being momentary and impersonal. You can’t find mind nowhere it isn’t anything but it’s content arises with conditions. ...

Astus wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:07 pm

LastLegend wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 pmOne’s mind would need to be very quiet to recognize Buddha nature…

What sort of buddha dislikes noise?

Noise as in activity of mind that pulls us it’s karma. Samadhi is practiced so we obtain the power to not be pulled in by karma.

There is a whole sect that devotes to “Other Power” that’s called Pure Land…yes Amitabha! That's excellent, but it still takes that long. Virgo Come on man. Wasn’t referring to different levels of practitioners who take rebirth in Pure Land or Pure Land itself. I am actually referring to the “Other...

Virgo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:30 pm

LastLegend wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:20 pm

Virgo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:57 pm
You gather the two heaps of merit and wisdom over 3 incalculable eons.

Don’t believe this nonsense.

Sometimes it takes longer.

Virgo

There is a whole sect that devotes to “Other Power” that’s called Pure Land…yes Amitabha!

Also anyone can connect with Buddhas and feel that connection. It’s a matter of how. It becomes a secret when people don’t believe it that’s possible. It’s also called “Other Power.”

Virgo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:57 pm
You gather the two heaps of merit and wisdom over 3 incalculable eons.

Don’t believe this nonsense.

It’s good to know thoughts…which are not necessarily in form of image. They can be very subtle and fine.

Buddha nature is like a glass of water and when you have a spoon of flour in it stirred (like there is coarse activity going on in mind). When the water is clear, the residue still remains. Just like our mind settles to quiet, calm, and clear the residue still remains. The clear water is like Buddha...

When conditions are such that the allergic person eats strawberries, and has a reaction, yes, that is an event, as is one’s moment of realization. If so, then what has the potential to react in a certain way to specific conditions? If it's not the aggregates nor something other, then what sort of c...

I should also say that "precedes" is not quite the right word, as the naturally present awareness cannot be "temporal" and in fact imbues experiences as well. It is beyond the ability of conceptual mind to contain or define. But it is not a "thing," or any sort of perm...

Malcolm, Thank you for a very thorough and clear reply. I feel I sense better now what your orientation in this world of practice may be, and your influences. As a lay Ch'an/Zen practitioner, things are rather simpler. It seems that you are describing the fortunate or perhaps fortified position of ...

Since you said Buddha nature is a concept, so then what is grasping itself? Or how does it work in mind? If you're looking for more in depth explanations, you can start with the Abhidharmakosabhasya for instance. 'Craving ("thirst") (tṛṣṇā) is the state [of the five aggregates] of those w...

The Great Death is the breakthrough in Chan. Why it erodes is one can’t utilize the function of aggregates to benefit beings. It isn’t the type of work of going to market to do charity.

What is grasping? 'There are these four kinds of grasping. Grasping at sensual pleasures, views, precepts and observances, and theories of a self. Grasping originates from craving. Grasping ceases when craving ceases. The practice that leads to the cessation of grasping is simply this noble eightfo...

Would you say Buddha nature is only the object of consciousness? Buddha nature is a concept, and whatever is not an object of consciousness is unknown. Assuming something beyond awareness is itself a conjecture formed in the mind. What is grasping? Since what you said there along line of abandoning...

It denies an independent self. Would you say Buddha nature is only the object of consciousness?

If you examine your mind, you would need to what are thoughts, and what arises before thoughts, and what spontaneous knows before all of that happen. Mind is what is aware of something. If there is nothing to be aware of, there is no mind to talk of either. 'If the hearing consciousness is permanen...

All things are conditions but if it is unborn it’s not conditioned. When examine your mind, you can ask: before born what is born?

…in direct traditions you recognize spontaneous nature and that’s the king. All things are conditioned. What do you call spontaneous? You would need to know that yourself. It’s quite personal. If you examine your mind, you would need to what are thoughts, and what arises before thoughts, and what s...